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Is that 11.45 local (winter) time? :)
It's all a matter of perspective & definition. You need some conception of what is essential for Antiquity or for the Middle Ages before you can place any borders. And next to that; are you talking about art, literature, architecture, economic structure, religious ideas? And about England, the Low Countries or Italy?
Constructions like 'Middle Ages', 'Antiquity', 'Renaissance', 'Early Modern' etc might be useful for educational practices at a beginner's level, and nearly every answer to the question when they begin or end is possible and defensible, but / because in the end there were no beginnings or endings - answering V. Kerry Inman's is rather constructing than reconstructing the past, and (of course) every construction can be discussed.
No idea re: V. Kerry Inman's second question, but very interested in yours!!
-Gerard.
From: Frank Morgret <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [M-R] Late Antiquity/Early Middle Ages
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:17:20 -0400
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>Good morning!
>
>John Briggs wrote:
>
> > Actually, it's High and Late Medieval as well - the Medieval
> > period conventionally ends in 1453, or 1485 (England) or
> > 1492 (the Americas) or 1500 (elsewhere). For this list, it is
> > probably 1570, but that's another story.
>
>Or for the dogmaticians among us, the Middle Ages ended
>shortly before noon, Saturday, October 31, 1517, when Martin
>Luther drove the fourth nail into the 95 Theses he had posted
>on the door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg and tucked his
>hammer back into his cincture. Sorry I can't be more precise.
>Best estimates make 11:45 still medieval.
>
>
>Frank
>
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