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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Thanks for your response. Of course you're right that the first context is baptism. I was thinking more broadly of the possibility that Jews and Christians eachg lived in their own 'sacred space'. Jews lived in what they defined as a 'Holy Congregation,' which had a tangible, 'realist' character. My question really was whether contemporary Christians were taught that they lived in the Body of Christ or in the Holy Spirit. The ceremonies of return to which I'm referring were rituals of reintegration and I'm testing the waters (as it were) to see how far I shold take this. Jeffrey Dr. Jeffrey R. Woolf Senior Lecturer Talmud Department Bar Ilan University Ramat Gan 52 900 ISRAEL O. 972-3-531-8612 F. 972-3-535-1233 C. 972-52-274-7375 Website: http://myobiterdicta.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyprian Rosen To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 04 June, 2007 19:54 Subject: Re: [M-R] Ecclesia and Spiritus Sanctus medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Jeffrey, Without any specific quote to judge by, I wonder if the phrase "immersed" in Christendom refers to the baptism of the converts by immersion. I can't think of any other context. Living "within the 'Spiritus Sanctus'" wouldn't necessarily be described as "immersion", except perhaps in the thought and writings of some mystics. Cyprian Rosen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dr. Jeffrey R. Woolf Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:33 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [M-R] Ecclesia and Spiritus Sanctus In the process of examining rituals for Jewish penitants who had (been) converted to Christianity, it seems as if Franco-German Jews in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries viewed converts to Christianity as being 'immersed' in Christendom. In this context, I began to wonder if in addition to being part of the Corpus Christi, did Christians view themselves at the time as living within the 'Spiritus Sanctus'? Is 'ecclesia'in its broader and narrower constructs infused by the Holy Spirit? I'd appreciate any and all relevant references. Thank you. Jeffrey Woolf Dr. Jeffrey R. Woolf Senior Lecturer Talmud Department Bar Ilan University Ramat Gan 52 900 ISRAEL O. 972-3-531-8612 F. 972-3-535-1233 C. 972-52-274-7375 Website: http://myobiterdicta.blogspot.com ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html