In our normal grievance procedure, after investigation of the grievance (taking witness statements, obtaining evidence) we have a meeting to 'hear' the grievance. At that meeting, both sides attend with their witnesses. The person raising the grievance states their case, and this can be queried by the person against whom the grievance has been raised. Witnesses are called, and their evidence can be queried by both sides - it is a bit like a court-room drama, but intended to be less confrontational. I think what I am saying here is that in fairness allegations made against another person have to be made known to them so they have the opportunity to put their own side. This does include witness statements, so witnesses have to be aware of this when they make their statements. However, this is all done through a very structured process, where explanation of statements is possible, rather than just handing them over. Bullying and Harassment allegations are handled slightly differently, because of the extra vulnerability of the individuals involved. But again, if there are witness statements then these are very likely at a certain stage to be made available to both sides, again in order to give people the opportunity to put their own side. In your case I think you might want to argue that statements will be made available at the appropriate time (which is probably not now) in the right context. It's a difficult balance, because you do want to protect people who may be frightened, but on the other hand you don't want to have systems in place where anonymous comments can be made by vindictive individuals to get rid of someone they don't like. Hence robust systems have to be in place, and more importantly, followed. Where we have fallen flat on our faces is when we don't follow our own procedures, I have learned to be quite obsessive about it now! Anne Anne Gadsden Information Governance Officer North Cumbria Acute Hospitals NHS Trust [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lynda Sent: 21 June 2007 15:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [data-protection] Query re Subject Access Request We've recently had a grievance placed by 2 contractors (who may well be 'workers' or employees - investigating this now) about another postholder - a volunteer (1). One grievance alleges bullying, harassment and defamatory emails designed to discredit and undermine and is backed up by several written documents and copies of emails illustrating this. There is also a further grievance from another contractor alleging similar and an email from another volunteer (2) at managerial level who is aware of the situation and is giving full support to the grievance. The grievance is ongoing currently We have now recieved an email from the volunteer (1) demanding to see full copies of the emails from the 3 individuals above otherwise they're threatening to put in a Subject Access Request. They are aware of the emails and names of individuals who sent them due to a breach of confidentiality which we're currently addressing. The contractors have given us permission to send the volunteer (1) a summary of the content of these emails but do not give us permission to send the emails in their entirety. They are worried about further bullying and harassment if their emails are forwarded. In view of what the volunteer (1) already knows, it is impossible for us to anonymise the emails by removing the name of the contractor and any identifying data as the volunteer (1) will know who wrote them. I'm aware that there is a duty of confidentiality between employer and employee but not sure how this applies to employer and contractor in this situation. Does anyone have any advice to offer? We don't have a lot of experience in this field! Are we entitled to withhold the emails should a SAR be submitted and should we even send a summary at this point? We will obviously be summarising them to use as supportive evidence during grievance meeting. 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