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Ghost written work is plagiarism. Plagiarism is passing somebody else's work off as your own. Plagiarism detection systems pick up text that matches material in the database - it is not a foolproof method of detecting plagiarism and needs to be used in conjunction with things like draft essays, production of notes, viva etc when plagiarism is suspected Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul V Davis Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN Tel: 01865 283414 % -----Original Message----- % From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Howard % Chadwick % Sent: 23 May 2007 15:18 % To: [log in to unmask] % Subject: Re: [PLAGIARISM] Question about penalties for proven cases % % If an AI is used to write essays then perhaps it could not be failed % retrospectively or contemporaneously on the grounds of plagiarism but % might be on the grounds that it is not the individual's own work but % 'ghost' written despite all sources (except the author) being referenced % correctly so giving the appearance of being non plagiaristic. % % % Kind regards, Howard Chadwick. % % Senior Lecturer - Mental Health, % % School of Nursing % % Faculty of Health and Social Care Sciences % % Kingston University and StGeorge's London University % % Cranmer Terrace, London, SW17 0RE % % Tel 0208 725 0114 Mob 07767 257006 % % e-mail [log in to unmask] % % -----Original Message----- % From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burkard % Schafer % Sent: 23 May 2007 14:46 % To: [log in to unmask] % Subject: Re: Question about penalties for proven cases % % Hi Mike % % > % % > To make an analogy :-) % % > % % > A runner who wins a race and fails a subsequent drug test % % > loses the medal. But what if a previously unknown performance % % > enhancing drug is on the market. Not yet banned, or even % % > detected. % % I always love your analogies, but this one needs work. % % If the substance was not banned, the athlete may have flouted the spirit % % of the competition, but did not break a rule per se. To ban % retrospectively % % a substance would be a violation of a very basic principle of justice. % % Difficult to think of an example from plagiarism of which your story % would % % be an analogy - a way to commit plagiarism that is so different from % % existing forms that it is not covered by the wording of our rules. Maybe % a % % student who uses an AI machine that writes essays for him - he could claim % % that he was not passing off "someone else's" ideas as his own, as the AI % is % % not a "someone"? After widespread use of this is discovered, the relevant % % regulations are changed - can you still take degrees away from people who % % sat their exams before that change? I'd say no - but then would not want % % them to operate on me if it was a medical exam.... % % A better analogy for your purposes is much closer to home - DNA tests. % % Several very old cases have now been solved on the basis of DNA testing. % % Indeed, if DNA testing was not around at the time the offence was % % committed, the perp will have been much more careless in leaving traces % % behind than someone who watches CSI regularly. % % There is however no doubt that this is a valid approach to crime % % investigations, and no criminal would get away with saying: hey, I wiped % off % % my fingerprints! At the time, that was all I was supposed to do... % % Burkhard % % ************************************************************************* % % You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, % change % % your subscription options, or access list archives, visit % % http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html % % ************************************************************************* % % ************************************************************************* % You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, % change your subscription options, or access list archives, visit % http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html % ************************************************************************* ************************************************************************* You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, change your subscription options, or access list archives, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html *************************************************************************