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Joe -
 
Hee hee - good question. Karl's MSP method (in the latest update) is not peer-reviewed yet. I am currently evaluating it on my data, and it works well, but I would hesitate to recommend it until it has passed peer review. It does seem to avoid the "superficial-bias" of the basic minimum norm method (='IID'), but the simulation results will be critical. Hopefully these will be finished soon, if you don't mind "watching this space".
 
(Note that it stands for "Multiple Sparse Priors" and is different from Jeremie Mattout's "Multivariate Source Prelocalisation")
 
Best wishes
Rik

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----- Original Message -----
From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Joseph Dien
To: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [SPM] EEG: 3D source reconstruction

Rik,
    what is your current recommendation on the inverse options:  MSP, 
LOR or IID?

Thanks!

Joe


On Apr 26, 2007, at 3:29 AM, Rik Henson wrote:

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> Joe -
>
> If it's any help, there is a worked example (how to use the fids 
> and sensor positions) in the first links here:
>
> http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~rh01/analysis.html
>
> (Once the latest updates to the inversion routines have been tested 
> and peer-reviewed, I hope to make this worked example part of the 
> manual; at the moment the "imaging" MEG/EEG inversion code is still 
> evolving.)
>
> Rik
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christophe Phillips
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [SPM] EEG: 3D source reconstruction
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>
> Dear Joe et al.
>
> I think I'm the one responsible for the confusing comments about 
> editing out the fiducial information...
>
> Your latest interpretation is right: get different files with the 
> different bits of information (fiducials in EEG and MRI space, 
> sensors, and headshape coordinates) and input them when requested.
> Hopefully, the rest of the processing will run smoothly...
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
> Joseph Dien a écrit :
>> Ah, worked it out!  Sorry for this stream of consciousness series 
>> of messages.  I'll stop after this note until I'm definitely 
>> stuck.  Okay, the 3D reconstruction gives the choice of either 
>> using a .pol file or not.  If yes then it is assumed to have the 
>> fiducials listed twice as noted below.  If no then it asks for the 
>> files created by create_fid_files and the sensor file should have 
>> the fiducials edited out.  Please correct me if I'm wrong but it 
>> does seem to have worked when done this way.  I didn't get the 
>> error that Carsten reported.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Joe
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