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M P Ranjan Yes - I'll sent you some pages of the eleventh seminar, those in which Lacan deals and comments on the question of "gaze" - the term he used to define "subject's seeing" or what is seen by a "subject". When designers act as "subjects", they "see". In most case we relate to what they " see" and design- as "new" or as "innovation[s]". Terence Love preceded us when he wrote: "......all designers [to be able to use] ......, 'what they have seen', or mixed external perceptions 'what they have experienced',....", my best to you, > Michal Popowsky > > > Michal Popowsky, Ph.D., > Department of History and Theory > Betsalel school of Arts and Design,Jerusalem > Teachers College of Technologies,Tel Aviv > Israel > Email: [log in to unmask]