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Hi, Louise -

Although we were prompted through the weekend for our BMJ titles, as of
Monday, April 9, we were no longer required to register. We are not part
of a consortium.  I believe that BMJ sent out a followup notice last
week stating that registration for subscribers was not their original
intention and that they were resolving this issue.

Best regards,

Stephanie Nicely Aken, Electronic Resources Coordinator, University of
Kentucky Libraries
William T. Young Library
University of Kentucky 
500 S. Limestone
Lexington, KY  40506-0456
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fax:  (859) 257-0508
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-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louise Cole
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:17 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES

This and other messages I have received off-list do seem to indicate
that:

1.  Institutions who are part of a consortia deal do not need to
individually register for access to issues older than 6 months.

2.  Institutions who are not part of a consortia deal do need to
individually register for access to issues older than 6 months.

Perhaps BMJ would care to comment on this differentiation?  I don't
think I have come across 'subscription discimination' of this kind
before.

Thanks
Louise

-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Angela Rice
Sent: 05 April 2007 08:17
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES


Louise

We are not part of any consortia deals and we have to register to access
archive issues of any of the BMJ journal we subscribe to.

Regards

Angela
_______________________________________

Angela Rice
Head of Library and Information Service
Mater Misericordiae University Hospital
Eccles Street, Dublin 7, Ireland
Tel.: +353 1 803 2241 Fax: +353 1 803 4887
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Louise Cole" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES


> I sense a pattern from those who have contacted me off-list - they are
part of a consortia deal, we are not.  Can an institution not in a
consortia deal check and see if they are being asked for individual
registrations? And maybe BMJ could let us know if there is a policy they
have introduced for those with individual journal subscriptions only?  I
have tried Gut and Journal of neurology, neurosurgery and psychiatry so
far and anything before 2006 is asking for us to register.
>
> Thanks
> Louise
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lesley Crawshaw
> Sent: 03 April 2007 16:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for pointing this out Louise.
>
> I had spotted that one of the backfiles was now fully online when we 
> were
working yesterday with this publisher's journals on Serials Solutions.
Contrary to what the Serials Solutions knowledgebase said we noticed
that the Journal of Clinical Pathology had all the issues online and
that we could access the full text of articles in the very first issue.
I did email our contact at BMJ Publishing to ask if we had rights to
access the full archive of this journal and then the announcement
appeared on various lists. I have to admit I hadn't fully read the
announcement and didn't see the information on registration.
>
> I have to say I more than confused as to why I can access BMJ 
> Publishing
Journals that are more than a year old without the need for a username
and password. I've managed to get into the very first article of Journal
of Clinical Pathology without any request to register. Is this because
we are part of the UK NESLi2 deal for BMJ Publishing journals?
>
> I certainly think it's a very bad idea if institutions whose IPs are
already registered should have their users required to register
separately. I understand that the idea behind registration is that the
publisher can see who is using the archive. Surely since the publisher
already has a good idea who is using their journals via institutional IP
(or ATHENS) authentication, then these users should be excluded from
this registration? I wouldn't have thought this would be a difficult
process to implement?
>
> I would certainly urge the publisher to reconsider this policy in 
> relation
to institutional users. I am not aware of any other publisher that has
gone down the route of requiring users to register in order to access
open access material. It isn't something we would want to encourage
either.
>
> Finally, I just wanted to congratulate the publisher for making these
archives free to all. I think that although it has had to give up the
possibility of all that extra dosh that comes from selling archives, the
increased usage that will come as a result of these open access archives
will more than make up for it. It also continues the spirit of those
many Highwire societies/publishers (and many others) who have also
chosen to make their archives free to all. It's just a real pity that
the positive aspects of this announcement have been tainted by the issue
of registration.
>
> Cheers
> Lesley
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louise Cole
> Sent: 03 April 2007 15:29
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES
>
> I'd like to comment on this new policy.
>
> First of all, we have had next to no notice of it.  Result: a high 
> number
of queries today from staff and students asking 'what's the password'
and 'why don't I have access'?
>
> Going back to an individual username and password for each person to
access is ridiculous and is in complete contrast to what most
institutions are trying to achieve, i.e. single or reduced sign on
between resources.
>
> I appreciate that most BMJ journals have issues freely available after

> 12
months.  However current subscribers (who are known by IP address)
surely should not be penalised in this way, effectively having to log in
and be authenticated more than once, depending on where they are based?
(I suppose we should consider current content as 12 months from
publication regardless of contracts going back further ...?)
>
> I know that BMJ need to monitor who is accessing their archives - and
releasing archive back to the first issue is a major achievement - but
why do it this way?  Do they really need to know every single person who
accesses material (poor staff and students who now need to go through
the process of registration AND remembering yet another username and
password when all they wanted was to check some research and get on with
their lives ...).
>
> I'm also not happy with the fact that we have had to change internal
procedures without any notice, including providing our customers with
information on this new registration policy, where we can.
>
> It is treating institutional subscriptions just the same as individual
ones, and I for one don't like it.  Individual subscribers to a journal
may be happy to register for access, but an institution purchases on
behalf of all staff and students, who expect to be able to get into
journal content quickly and without unnecessary complications.  That's
what IP access is for!
>
> Thanks - just needed to get that out of my system!  I'd be interested 
> to
know what others think.
>
> Louise
>
> Louise Cole
> Electronic Resources Team Leader
> Health Sciences Library
> Level 7 Worsley Building
> University of Leeds
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ingrid Walsh
> Sent: 02 April 2007 13:47
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES
>
>
>
> ***IMPORTANT NOTICE - CHANGES TO BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS***
>
> Over the coming months we will be releasing the full back archive of 
> our
23 journals, all the way back to Volume 1, Issue 1. That's over 4800
issues! And guess what? They're free! The first journal to be released
will be Journal of Clinical Pathology (and its Molecular Pathology
> edition) on 2nd April. So from that date, you'll need to register with

> us
to browse all articles over 12 months old.
>
> As well as maintaining access to our archive, you can also use the 
> folders
feature, allowing you to save interesting articles and searches in a
personalised folder. You can also sign up to receive new alerts.
>
> Registration is easy; fill in the online form and you'll immediately 
> be
free to search the archive as usual. You'll only need to register once
and we promise not to share your details with people if you don't want
us to.
>
> If you've registered with us in the past, or you have a journal
subscription, you'll just need to sign in as usual.* You can use the
'Remember me' feature on the site or your browser to sign in
automatically.
>
> If you haven't registered for this site yet, visit
http://journals.bmj.com/cgi/register?jnl now.
>
> Regards
>
> BMJ Journals marketing team
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