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Well, I'd call the first a long poem, & most of the second is Ondaatjean prose. But I agree with you Andrew, that most often a novelist's idea of what a character's poems should be aren't that god. I always read the stuff though, or at least begin to. And if it's quoted stuff then how well does it fit? And if not, does it 'work'? Which is he question Meika must ask too, right? Doug On 22-Mar-07, at 6:49 PM, andrew burke wrote: > BUT - a great 'novel' like The Collected Works of Billy the Kid is all > poetry, and Coming Through Slaughter also. No skimming there! Douglas Barbour 11655 - 72 Avenue NW Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9 (780) 436 3320 http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ Latest book: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 You've got to find some way of saying it without sayng it. Duke Ellington