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And especially not George W Bush's 'us' if the clips on CBC TV news are anything to go by... Doug On 13-Mar-07, at 7:12 PM, Mark Weiss wrote: > But of course it's not a contest. Increasingly Portuguese speakers and > Spanish speakers of the educated classes learn each other's languages, > and they tend to see themselves as a part of the same cultural unit, > i.e., not us. Douglas Barbour 11655 - 72 Avenue NW Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9 (780) 436 3320 http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ Latest book: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 Fame tends to be a lot of shits thinking you're no longer a threat. Valerie Raworth