Following the theme of OH competency:

If we are considering what the "opposition are up to" then just look at the plethora of tools, advice and training provide by the HSE, CIPD and IOSH on such subjects as stress, sickness absence, disability, rehabilitation to name but a few. It is not just the OTs getting out there it is also our HR and Safety colleagues as well. It is some years since I did my foundation OH training  but if these subjects are not already in the current curriculum for OH training then we are in grave danger of becoming extinct!

 What, these days, is our unique selling point??!

regards Eleanor
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Hello Jeremy

As you are one of our practice educators would you, and any others who feel strongly about  input on developing “return to work recovery programmes etc) being integral to an OH course,  like to write to me at London South Bank University expressing this opinion. If we have support from the sharp end we may be able to add a further unit as an elective. We would also be able to offer it as a stand alone unit for OHNs who wish to expand or consolidate their competence in this area of practice.

For those interested in responding on this matter please email me at [log in to unmask] I would welcome your support. The course content of any degree programme is not at the discretion of OHNs alone and is a group decision. We have to convince other lecturers from other public health disciplines including school nurses, infection control nurses, HV’s, practice nurses, general nurses and possibly even a learning disability nurse (the Dean of our Faculty) that this is an essential element for an OH course.

Leading on from my earlier email re the meeting at the Royal Society of Medicine  re the input of OT.s and insurance nurses at Unumm Provident. As part of a conversation with three OH physicians- one  physician said something along the lines of - “That was an interesting presentation, it is worrying (that companies are using companies such as these to provide what has been the role of OH services) and it is important we know what the opposition are up to.”  Threatened or what! What is our position?????

Anne Harriss
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Dear all, as this module is fundemental to the work we are currently doing I think it must form part of the degree programme.

Jeremy

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on 23/3/07 9:24 am, Lucy and Adrian at [log in to unmask] wrote:



       Following on from Anne Harris' email -
     
       Well, it's up to us then, isn't it!   We must start to seriously address the issue of skill set and competencies, in line with the RCN as no NMC standards exist.  I remain extremely concerned about the reluctance of many OHNs to take accountability for their judgement and advice, continuing to seek "confirmation" from OHPs.  We must pursue a course of educated and rationalised decision making, and be prepared and (more importantly) confident to justify our advice in tribunals / courts.
     
       The DDA has had a potentially very enabling effect on OH nurses, being symptom rather than diagnosis driven.  We should grasp this with both hands.  Diagnosis is required for RIDDOR, but everything else should be within the capability of a competent practitioner.  So we should vote with our feet regarding post-registration training that does not deliver graduates with these competencies and confidence.
     
       Let's start to seriously look at the value some of the "NMC accredited" courses really give us at a profession.
     
       Lucy Kenyon  RGN, MMedSci (OH)
     
     
       Hello Lucy and list.
     
       A good way to start is to lobby  both the NMC and OH educational institutions to ensure they include case management and development of return to work strategies, disability etc in sufficient depth on all OHN programmes.
     
       On a personal note I would like to include a further unit onto our programme re the above which consolidates other learning within the course on these issues. I will only be able to achieve this on our Public Health degree if it is recognised by stakeholders as being of value.  If we put that unit in we would have to remove another unit or add it as an elective. Comments please.
     
       Anne
     


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