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re: internalization Gene is right that Brakhage is hugely important here, but he didn't invent such cinema in 1959 -- Kenneth Anger and Maya Deren are the most famous but not the only filmmakers who were exploring it during the 1940s, albeit in different modes, and others were there in earlier decades, depending on how one defines the field. A good starting point is P. Adams Sitney's classic "Visionary Film," especially the portions on psychodrama, lyrical film, and mythopoetic film. David Sterritt, PhD Chairman, National Society of Film Critics Professor Emeritus of Theater and Film Long Island University Programming Associate Makor/Steinhardt Center of the 92nd Street Y 1 East Chase Street, Suite 501-502, Baltimore, MD 21202-2574 410-385-0123 ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. * * Film-Philosophy Email Discussion Salon. After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. **