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Dear Kelvin,
I'm on your side when it comes to critique of EMT. It makes the North feel  
better that they have cleaned-up and 'greened' their industries (to what extent 
 one still wonders?), while other parts of the world like China have to build 
 their economies on relatively cheap and available coal. EMT is highly  
technocentric and certainly not wider or deeper in its engagements with other  
issues as you suggest.
In the Channel 4 docu I picked up and paraphrase here the argument that  
Africa is in part being constrained by semi-environmental orientations, i.e.  that 
Africa being rural, uses up woodfuel (contributing to deforestation) and  
releases CO2 from the fires (but probably much less than during the Medieval  
period that Prof Stott was so excited about!). Therefore any aim to get  
electricity "must not" be based around fossil fuels like coal, and that the  continent 
should opt to use alternative energy sources, e.g. Solar. (In Gokwe,  
Zimbabwe I had to wait till after 11am till the solar had charged before I could  use 
the Council's telephones. On coudy days ...; and school kids trying to use  
computers ...!)
So, in part what I was arguing is that the EMT and wider discourse around  
('shallow greens') it is in part adding to pressure on Africa. We need to remind 
 our selves that in totals and per capita the CO2 and other greenhouse gas  
emissions in the North remain significantly higher than in Africa and other  
parts of the South.
 
Nick
 
In a message dated 12/03/2007 09:01:36 GMT Standard Time, [log in to unmask]  
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Dear  Nick 
It’s good to know that Ecological Modernisation  theory is ‘the main 
practical green orientation’. Apart from technical  questions about how EM theory 
measures up to the scale of the challenge of  climate change in practice, I 
wonder how the theory addresses the broader  green agenda for social change that 
includes peace and social justice? Not so  practical in these regards, perhaps? 
I think we should be careful about  using a brush as broad as Channel 4  
documentaries. 
Cheers 
Kelvin 
 
  
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Subject:  swindle
 
_http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/_ 
(http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/) 
 

 
Did anyone watch  this?
 

 
Environmentalists  have been painted with one broad brush:
 
We are anti-growth,  anti-technology and dead against the use of fossil  
fuels.
 
Now we are told by  this group of scientists that CO2 related global warming 
is all one big  swindle.
 

 
Climate is changing,  climate is unpredictable; there have been very warm 
periods (Medieval in  Europe) and cold snaps (when the Thames  froze). 
 

 
Professor Stott (a  geographer) tells us excitedly about wine and riches when 
cathedrals were  being built in the UK in the medieval  days.
 

 
It is surely the  'uncertainty' that prevails both in the science (incomplete 
knowledge and  arguments about models) and in the social sciences (political 
and  economic debates about costs, development pathways and the precautionary  
principle).
 

 
To suggest that all  environmentalists wish to stop 'development' in Africa 
is scandalous;  Ecological modernisation theory (the main practical green 
orientation) can  only be afforded in the North, so it is preposterous to suggest  
that Africa should be constrained by  such a cost.
 

 
Nick