re: fascipedia sorry Kelvin, the nazis in sweden are already on to it (via swe wikipedia): http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metapedia metapedia is "... an alternative wikiencyclopedia focusing on culture, philosophy, science and politics from a nationalist point of view" (my transl.) it's all about ranting nazi-stuff (we've heard it before...) / jonas ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Jonas R Bylund, PhD Dept. of Human Geography Stockholm University [log in to unmask] http://people.su.se/~jbylu/ Begin forwarded message: From: Kelvin Mason <[log in to unmask]> Date: den 6 mars 2007 12.17.42 MET To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Conservapedia.com - A conservative encyclopedia you can trust Reply-To: Kelvin Mason <[log in to unmask]> Fascipedia project anyone, an encyclopaedia you must obey? Or maybe, even more fun, Wakipedia? (Wackypedia with proper English spelling) Just imagine the waki entry we could conjure for Geography... Kelvin -----Original Message----- From: A forum for critical and radical geographers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Canning J. Sent: 06 March 2007 11:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Conservapedia.com - A conservative encyclopedia you can trust Thanks Jon I like this bit in 'Examples of Bias in Wikipedia entry'. Wikipedia often uses foreign spelling of words, even though most English-speaking users are American. Look up "Most Favored Nation" on Wikipedia and it automatically converts the spelling to the British spelling "Most Favoured Nation." Look up "Division of labor" on Wikipedia and it automatically converts to the British spelling "Division of labour," then insists on the British spelling for "specialization" also http://www.conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia -----Original Message----- From: A forum for critical and radical geographers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon Cloke Sent: 06 March 2007 10:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Conservapedia.com - A conservative encyclopedia you can trust Any of the rest of you come across this extraordinarily useful teaching tool? Given the disputes about student use of Wikipedia this couldn't have come at a better time, although it is admittedly a work in progress. No more 'grey areas' or subjectivity, just hard facts! As an example, here's the page on Ancient History... Introduction to Ancient History Ancient history, which is everything before about A.D. 600, created or discovered all the major religions today except Islam. Ancient history created civilization and achieved many of the greatest intellectual breakthroughs of all time. Literature, drama, mathematics, philosophy, language, etc., were all created in ancient history. When did mankind first begin? There is no reliable evidence of man existing before 3500 B.C. The oldest writing is a pictographic tablet called a "cuneiform" dated to about 3400 B.C. from Sumer (SOO-mur) in Southern Mesopotamia (where Iraq is today). These cuneiforms look like chicken-scratches featuring wedge-like or arrow-shaped characters. The oldest western-style script is from the Indo-Aryan language, and one dated to 1550 B.C. was found in the Sinai. The oldest verified civilization dates to about 3000 B.C. We can also extrapolate backwards > from modern populations to estimate that only about 300 million people existed in the world at the time of Christ, and extrapolating backwards further yields only one family in the year 3300 B.C. Languages can be traced backwards to about 3000 B.C., and some experts reconstruct a point of origin in southeastern Europe near the Baltic, not far from the Ararat mountain range cited in the Bible in connection with Noah. Old trees never predate this time either; the oldest sequoias, which never die of old age, are only 4000 years old. No "civilization" has been found that is older than about 3000 B.C. By "civilization" we mean order and hierarchy in the way of life. Some type of political system or government is usually necessary to have a civilization. A structure similar to a city or town is necessary to bring together people, jobs, buildings or religious centers. Usually there are different classes of people, such as rich and poor. Some historians say there must be an agricultural surplus also: enough food to feed the people so that some workers could spend time in jobs other than farming. In a nutshell, a civilization must have cities, skilled (non-farming) workers, social and government institutions, writing to maintain records such as property ownership, and advanced technology. Memorize the oldest dates for the ancient civilizations: Mesopotamia (Mes-uh-puh-tay-mee-uh): 3500 - 500 B.C., when conquered by Persia Egypt: 3100 - 525 B.C., when conquered by the Hyksos (HIK-sohs) Indus (IN-dus) Valley: beginning in 2900 B.C. China: beginning in 2200 B.C. Mexican Olmec (AWL-mek): 1200 - 300 B.C., the earliest known American civilization Peru (South America): 900 B.C. History books speculate at length about "prehistory", which predates writing. But there is no reliable evidence to support this speculation, and not worth spending time on. There is no reason to think that man existed for thousands of years without ever expressing himself in written form. But in case you are asked, historians describe the period of time known as "prehistory" as the "Stone Age." They divide the Stone Age into two time periods: "Paleolithic" and "Neolithic". The Paleolithic Age is older, when man relied mostly on hunting and picking nuts and fruit to supplement his diet. The Paleolithic Age was followed by the Neolithic Age, which consisted of the rise of agriculture. The "Neolithic Revolution" means the "Agricultural Revolution," when farming became dominant. The dates of these ages are controversial, and historians have a bias for giving them older dates than proven by archaeology.