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I like that. Can't you just imagine orthopaedics having "ST£" training? Do 
you think plastics have ST££ training, or maybe ST$ training? I don't think 
ST€ training is universally accepted on all PCs, at least not while Gordon 
Brown is still around.

AF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Webster" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: ST Interviews

In my region, supposedly 400 people applied for T&O at ST£ and 4. That
amount of people would never have been shortlisted previously, but around
half have been recommended to be guaranteed an interview for 1st and 2nd
choices. How can you logistically interview that many.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Accident and Emergency Academic List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Prescott Mark (RLZ)
Sent: 20 March 2007 12:38
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: ST Interviews

Re the current string - references - Is this conspiracy theory, or is there
any evidence that this is or has occured?
Is this simply conversation to keep our mail-boxes full?
I believe that the candidate should not be able to modify the references
requested (ie excluding the bad ones)

My experience of the appointment process in the West Midlands reflect others
- ie serious concern about the design and content of application forms used,
and time allocated, for shortlisting. Here the interviews have been similar
in every way to multi-station interviews for EM used in this region for
registrar appointment previously - including every candidates CV and
supporting documentation being examined at one of the additional stations.

My concern is that, whilst we interviewed many high calibre candidates who I
will be very proud to work with, we do not know how many others have not had
the chance to come before an interview panel.
The latest advice (http://www.mmc.nhs.uk/pages/review) seems to imply that
many of those set aside will have another chance - review of application or
definate interview - but whether that will be fair has to be seen!
My view - the main issue is that shortlisting panels were denied the chance
to use the CV information to do the job. This meant that long-listing was
not done then and competencies and experiences could not be judged fully.

MarkP

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Fogarty [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 20 March 2007 12:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: ST Interviews
>
> But I think you're missing my point. If a hacker was able to forge an
> online
> reference from me, then it's very easy for them to print a copy of that
> reference and append a signature to it. Any scrawl will do, doesn't even
> have to remotely look like my actual signature as there is no reference
> point for that at the various Deaneries, so it'll still be a "verified
> signed" copy as far as the interview panel is concerned.
>
> AF
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doc Holiday" <[log in to unmask]>
>
> > From: Adrian Fogarty <[log in to unmask]>
> > Anyway, it's still more secure than a signature on a piece of paper if
> you
> > ask me.
> >
> > --> Not really. That piece of paper is available to one person, to whom
> > you have handed it and whom you know to be a doctor, whose GMC
> > registration you confirmed before employing him/her and thus you could
> > assume a few things about him/her. The information on the web is
> availabe
> > to anyone who has that free software and the intent to mis-use the info.
>
> > You have no idea who this person is and what their motives are or even
> > whether they exist...
> >
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