One problem is that the bias field is dependant on the subject, as it depends also on the receiver coils position. Therefore any a priori information would be hard to come up with. This might be less of a problem for brain imaging where bird cage coils are used giving a relatively flat B1. When dealing with surface array coils with much stronger sensitivity fall-off, I use the following method: 1) threshold the voxels with signal, 2) fit a polynomial function directly to those voxels (3rd or 4th order), 3) initialize the bias with this function. I guess any fast method not based on tissue modeling would do, like homomorphic filtering for example. Olivier __________________________________________________ Olivier Salvado, PhD Case Western Reserve University | Case Center for Imaging Research University Hospitals of Cleveland | Department of Radiology | Wearn B49 11100 Euclid Av. | Cleveland, OH 44106 Ph. (216) 983 3426 | Fax: (216) 844 4987 -----Original Message----- From: SPM (Statistical Parametric Mapping) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marko Wilke Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 03:07 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [SPM] Bias field Dear All, I stumbled upon the following passage in the segmentation help text: 'A more accurate estimate of a bias field can be obtained by including prior knowledge about the distribution of the fields likely to be encountered by the correction algorithm.' I wonder if this only refers to the amount of inhomogeneity (likely a ballpark number) or it is it possible to, for example, use another algorithms output as a more informed starting estimate. Alternatively, one could take the bias field from a first iteration and feed that into a second pass segmentation run. I realize this would take more time but for very inhomogeneous data (surface coils, high-field etc.) it may result in an improvement of tissue labeling. So bottomline, my question is: Has anyone experimented with providing 3D inhomogeneity estimates as starting parameters for the spm5 segmentation algorithm? Best, Marko -- ===================================================================== Marko Wilke (Dr.med./M.D.) [log in to unmask] Universitäts-Kinderklinik University Children's Hospital Abt. III (Neuropädiatrie) Dept. III (Pediatric neurology) Hoppe-Seyler-Str. 1, D - 72076 Tübingen Tel.: (+49) 07071 29-83416 Fax: (+49) 07071 29-5473 =====================================================================