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>And finally - for all those low-carbon visitors, do you have details of >how to get to your venue by bicycle on your website? You're right, Jane! I'm glad you brought this up. I get very fed up of websites organisations who don't even consider providing public transport or walking/bike 'how to get here' details. The National Trust is quite good on this front and all their properties list the nearest station and sometimes give bus information even if this just gets you within a mile of the site. The Centre for Alternative Technology would be a good place from which to seek advice. They have a visitor centre and list how to get there with train first and car last, encouraging if you do drive, to lift-share. http://www.cat.org.uk/visitus/vc_content.tmpl?subdir=visitus&sku=VC_03 Some town centres (such as Southampton) have started a free bus service linking main 'nodes' such as train stations, ferry terminals and shopping centres. I wonder if they could be persuaded to stop at their museums? This doesn't happen in Southampton unfortunately but I bet it would a) increse visitor numbers and b) encourage visitors who would otherwise want to drive but don't bother because of difficulty parking. Also, as well as campaigning for better quality browsers, why not campaign for better public transport? http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/ All the best, Tehmina (who once went to and from Southampton to the Weald and Downland Museum by public transport, three trains, a bus and a walk). On 19/02/07, Sarre, Jane <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Matt > > Once you've reduced your power consumption I'd also suggest encouraging > whoever decides such things to switch to a power supplier that supplies > renewable power. We use http://www.good-energy.co.uk/ at home, details > of others are at http://www.greenelectricity.org/. > > Institutions could also consider microgeneration on site... > > And finally - for all those low-carbon visitors, do you have details of > how to get to your venue by bicycle on your website? > > Jane > > > > Jane Sarre > Access & Learning Officer > Museum of London > 150 London Wall > London. EC2Y 5HN > Tel: 020 7814 5772 > Fax: 020 7600 1058 > Email: [log in to unmask] > www.museumoflondon.org.uk > > Last chance to see Belonging: Voices of London's Refugees - a thought-provoking free exhibition, ends 25 February > Glamour, grandeur, sleaze, disease - discover a great city in the making in the new Medieval London gallery. Click here for free weekend activities for all the family > Register for regular Museum updates with [log in to unmask] > -----Original Message----- > From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Matthew Cock > Sent: 15 February 2007 08:36 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: A greener internet? > > Well, well, thank you everyone for some really thought-provoking > responses to my thoughts. It seems like we should heed the wartime maxim > - is your blog or avatar really necessary? > > While of course the tech companies can make the hardware more > efficient, we have to reduce the amount of energy we consume, and make > sure it comes from renewable sources. Not easy. > > Any more thoughts or links, do keep mailing! I was thinking of a paper > at the next museums and the web, but of course I,m now going to have to > think of the environmental impact of that... > > M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wed Feb 14 21:45:59 2007 > Subject: Re: A greener internet? > > And so a thread is born... > > Should we delete the flotsam of decades of vision and revision from > Local Authorities, QUANGOs, dead companies, bankrupt startups and pilot > projects? > Absolutely we should. Unfortunately, though, it's far, far easier to > publish than it is to unpublish and at least there's a chance that those > still-functioning organisations may self-regulate at some point and > actually delete some of this stuff. > > The Internet is full of ghosts and, what is worse, it is very often > impossible to tell them from the real, active, going concerns. Once the > novelty of vanity publishing wears off and people realise that the > blogosphere is spread so thin that the average audience is vanishingly > small, which is more likely - that people will go back to that Wordpress > blog and hit 'delete' or simply wander away and leave it undeleted until > some admin does it for them? > > Who decides what's necessary or not on the Internet? In any other > medium, it's the market. On the Internet, sometimes unfortunately, > everyone decides for themselves. > > Nick > > Nick Poole > Director > MDA > > The Spectrum Building, The Michael Young Centre, Purbeck Road, > Cambridge, CB2 2PD > > Telephone: 01223 415 760 > http://www.mda.org.uk > http://www.collectionsforall.org.uk > > The revised edition of SPECTRUM, the UK museum documentation standard, > is now available. Download it for free at: > > http://www.mda.org.uk/spectrum.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Tehmina Goskar > Sent: 14 February 2007 17:29 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: A greener internet? > > >If we are talking about the environmental impact specifically of > digital publishing by > >museums, then I would argue that this is offset by several orders of > magnitude by the mostly > >tedious and tangential blogosphere. If we're talking about personal > choices, preventing > >unnecessary blogging would probably be up there at number one on my > list. > > Come, come. Should we not first get rid of the millions of antiquated, > impenetrable static pages containing, lines and lines of thoroughly > boring 'information' on obselete standards, policies and guidelines, > particularly from local government and central government quangos? > > Anyway, who's judging what's necessary or not on the internet? > > Let's not fall foul of continually debating the principles and > big-issues without doing the little thngs that do make a difference, > many of which have already been mentioned. > > Better go and feed the horse, long journey tomorrow. > > Tehmina > > On 14/02/07, Kostas Arvanitis <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > But, please spare our lives: http://digitalheritage.wordpress.com/ > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Kostas. > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Dr. Konstantinos Arvanitis > > Lecturer in Museology > > Centre for Museology > > School of Arts Histories and Cultures > > Humanities Bridgeford Street > > The University of Manchester > > Oxford Road > > Manchester M13 9PL > > Tel.: +44 161 2753018 > > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/museology/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Ottevanger, Jeremy > > Sent: 14 February 2007 15:24 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: A greener internet? > > > > And kill bloggers > > > > > > > > Jeremy Ottevanger > > Web Developer, Museum Systems Team > > Museum of London Group > > 46 Eagle Wharf Road > > London. N1 7ED > > Tel: 020 7410 2207 > > Fax: 020 7600 1058 > > Email: [log in to unmask] www.museumoflondon.org.uk > > > > Visit Belonging: Voices of London's Refugees - a new thought-provoking > free exhibition > > > > Glamour, grandeur, sleaze, disease - discover a great city in the > > making > at the Museum of London -----Original Message----- > > From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > > Ray Shah > > Sent: 14 February 2007 15:23 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [MCG] A greener internet? > > > > And cycle home or take the bus. > > > > -- > > - Ray > > > > Ray Shah - think design, inc. > > museum education retail web open source [log in to unmask] tel: > > 212.922.0952 x 212 http://www.thinkdesign.com mobile: 917.476.0952 > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Tony Gill wrote: > > > > > Turn your computer and monitor off when you go home at night, if you > > > > don't already. > > > > ************************************************** > > For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list, visit > > > the > website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk > > ************************************************** > > > > ************************************************** > > For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list, visit > > > the > website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk > > ************************************************** > > > > ************************************************** > For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list, visit > the website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk > ************************************************** > > ************************************************** > For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list, visit > the website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk > ************************************************** > > -- > > A New World: England's first view of America Explore the New World > through Elizabethan eyes. > Coming Soon. 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