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It's called "money for old rope" : selling the same product twice. I'm surprised it is legal if the licence specifies that archival content is part of the package, and especially if it covers years that you have directly paid for though subscription. If Vauhxhall decided to lease the manufacture and marketing of the newest Corsa model to Ford, would Ford have the right to collect old models of the car from peoples' driveways, and force erstwhile owners to buy them back again? ... Might be worth checking :0) -----Original Message----- From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jan Schoones Sent: 12 February 2007 14:46 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Now You See It Now You Don't - Where are my Backfiles and Archival rights to Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics Dear All, I would like to add a similar problem: as of 2007, the journal Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics changed from Elsevier to Nature PG. We license the "freedom collection" of Elsevier's ScienceDirect, and we licensed also the archival backfiles for this collection. Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics is part of both licences. Based on the archival-backfiles-licence, I discarded the paper edition of this core title in 2006. With no communication at all to me (a client), the complete archives have abruptle disappeared from ScienceDirect. Access to the new publisher is out of the question (it would take a new subscription which would in fact be a double payment for the same journal). I am curious what Elsevier has to say about this. Cordially, Jan J.W. Schoones, MA Walaeus Library Collection Development Coordinator Leiden University Medical Center C1-Q PO Box 9600 2300 RC Leiden The Netherlands 31-71-5262182 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lesley Crawshaw Sent: vrijdag 9 februari 2007 16:40 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Now You See It Now You Don't - Where Have the Backfiles and Archives of Contemporary Economic Policy and Economic Inquiry Gone? Hi, Now that I've seen OUP's and Blackwell's response to this transfer fiasco I would like to make the following comments. First of all I am glad that the 2000-2006 content for the two titles in question has now been reinstated on the Oxford Journals site, although why can't the pre-1996 archive and the 1997-1999 backfiles also be reinstated? This still leaves me wondering why interim arrangements had not automatically been put in place for this transfer. These should have included the content remaining on the Oxford Journals site for a reasonable period to allow time not only for the file conversion that needs to take place before the content can be loaded on Synergy, but also to allow time for librarians to make the changes on their own systems. We now find ourselves in the worst of all positions where there is still significant content unavailable. Since Blackwell Publishing and Oxford Journals are well aware of the problems that journal transfers cause and are both members of the UKSG's Transfer Group shouldn't they have known better and made arrangements to avoid the problems this is now causing? Should they not have been leading the way in demonstrating good practice to the rest of the publishing community? The whole episode has an air of sloppiness, lack of planning and professionalism and a total lack of consideration for the subscribers and end users of these resources. Surely the Western Economic Association International (WEAI) should also have been aware of the need for interim arrangement during this transfer? Finally what about compensation for subscribers for the period that access was not provided to paid for content? Cheers Lesley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lesley Crawshaw, Faculty Information Consultant, Learning and Information Services University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, AL10 9AB ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email: [log in to unmask] phone: 01707 284662 fax: 01707 284666 list owner: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~