Hi Chris

thanks very much for your nice e-mail.  And thanks for the support.

I am interested though in why you are suspicious of the role of technology.  I am aware that you have posted on this in the past but I'm not sure whether I fully understood your particular angle.  I suppose one question might be about what you define as technology... a simple tool such as a hammer or are you thinking more industrially e.g. robotic arms in an assembly plant, transport etc. Is the issue to do with technology as a distraction/hindrance to human existence and fulfilment or is there something I am missing?

Maybe we should discuss this offline but I hope this may be useful for others to know too, assuming they don't already.

Cheers Boris

At 11:50 01/02/2007, you wrote:
Hi Boris
 
I apologise unreservedly for any ad hominen elements in my reply - I try and always maintain conviviality in such discussions and I failed in that instance.
 
I was very impressed with your site and indeed before posting my message had already ordered a copy of the book - I am totally committed to supporting all responses to this problem which are predicated on a degree of political consciousness. I guess perhaps that was why I got a bit carried away when I saw the statement about increased automation being a route to human emancipation - I was disappointed to come a cross a statement which seems to assume a maintenance of the industrial order as part of the solution. I am coming to this from a sort of Frankfurt school critique of the enlightenment project and thus am suspicious of how technology can have any role in the creation of an authentic existence.
 
Anyway, I look forward to receiving the book and keep up the good work.
 
Chris
 
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hi Chris

I'm not sure what you mean by old school (ad hominem possibly? or what you base your statement regarding automation on.  However,  an 'authentic' human existence will be ushered in not on the back of automation but on the back of social and political change.  It's not about technology it's about social (and therefore cultural political economic etc) relations. The work of AWTW is to try and bring this change about. As such they provide political/economic analysis on the problems we face (whether they be climate, pensions, health etc) and come up with action plans... I myself find it very hard to disagree with their action plan for the eco-crisis we face... try and get a copy of running a temperature and see what you think (incidentally, it promotes among other things, contraction and convergence)

Cheers
Boris

At 12:55 31/01/2007, you wrote:
I see that on the AWTW website that this is a strictly old skool marxist approach to the problem, predicated on the belief that an authentic human existence will be ushered in on the back of increased automation of industrial processes. I can understand H.G Wells or Issac Asimov proposing such an idea but, in all seriousness, how could anyone today be proposing salvation through robots?
 
Chris
 
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Dear Forum, A prescription I hope you may read, follow and pass on... Cheers Boris



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