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Dear All,
 
As you will gather from below, I returned our amended file by the required deadline of February 6th, but with copious notes attached to each line where, from our perspective, multiple cost centres came into play, asking them to explain how they would treat the FTEs thus displaced by their methodology. I also, as you will see, made it clear that compliance with their deadline did not mean acceptance of their approach!
 
You may find Donald's reply of interest ... or not!
 
Best wishes,
 
Judy
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Judy Evans
Senior Assistant Registrar (Student Administration and Systems)
University of Brighton
Cockcroft Building
Lewes Road
Brighton
BN2 4GJ

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Sent: Wed 07/02/2007 17:15
To: Evans Judy
Subject: Fw: Getting ready for University Guide 2007


Dear Judy
thanks v much for your reply. I note your strong comments which will certainlly be taken into account in ur review and subsequent discussion of the tables.
best wishes
Donald  
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Donald MacLeod
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Hi Donald
 
I've had a quick look at the table and the comments.
 
1. Where they had previously wanted a JACS that was under 'other subjects' they are basically asking us what we will do with the students assigned to the JACS. These students will not be included as per your previous emails to the other HEIs
 
2. From the notes in the table, I think they are asking what will happen if they leave their chosen JACS in a Guardian Subject Group? specifically, will the FTEs associated with the JACS be included? The answer to this is that the FTEs for the JACS will be included within this GSG as student data is captured via the JACS. However, we only use one cost centre against a GSG (they can use the same cost centre against more than one GSG).
 
 
Hope this helps
Lorna
 
 


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Dear Donald,
 
As you will know from my earlier response, we believe the Guardian approach to be deeply flawed. The decision to make amendments to your data and return the attached as requested is under no circumstances to be taken by the Guardian as an acceptance of your methodology.
 
Please respond to the individual comments in the attached as soon as possible.
 
Judy
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Judy Evans
Senior Assistant Registrar (Student Administration and Systems)
University of Brighton
Cockcroft Building
Lewes Road
Brighton
BN2 4GJ

tel: 01273 642812
fax: 01273 642922

email: [log in to unmask]



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01 February 2007 17:45
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Evans Judy
Subject:
Fw: Getting ready for University Guide 2007



Dear Judy Evans



Let me apologise for any lack of clarity in our request for information for the Guardian university guide tables and ask you to answer the points below – I hope this is the last time we will have to bother you.


As in previous years please use only one Cost Centre per Guardian subject. We only use principal JACS, not sub-JACS. JACS which we are not using (and do not appear on the spreadsheet) are listed below. These students will not be counted in the tables.  


I would be grateful if you could return this to me by Tuesday (February 6) so we can get the ball rolling with HESA. Thank you for your cooperation


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Donald MacLeod
editor EducationGuardian.co.uk
and     SocietyGuardian.co.uk
020 7239 9913

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Review of Cost Centre Submission: University of Brighton



While conducting the necessary quality checks on the cost centre consultation file for University of Brighton the following observations have been made:



1 Cost Centre 41 is not used by the Guardian Tables. Please review/adjust.



2 Only Principal Subject JACS are used when creating Guardian Subjects. We have created an updated file (attached) for Brighton using only the principal JACS (column D), presented alongside the originally submitted JACS (column C) for you to review/adjust as appropriate.



3 Multiple cost centres assigned to Guardian Subjects. Note that a single cost centre should be assigned to a single Guardian Subject. Please review/adjust.



4 JACS codes NOT used in the Guardian Tables are: A0, A9, B0, B3, F0, F9, H0, J7, J9, L0, L9, N7, Q2, Q4, Q5, Q9, V0, V9, W8, X2, Y0. Please use only those available from the drop down lists.





General Statements/Guidance (applicable to all HEIs):



a Only Principal Subject JACS are used when creating Guardian Subjects.



b Only one cost centre should be assigned to a Guardian Subject



c JACS codes NOT used in the Guardian Tables are: A0, A9, B0, B3, F0, F9, H0, J7, J9, L0, L9, N7, Q2, Q4, Q5, Q9, V0, V9, W8, X2, Y0.



d A valid JACS code can only appear in one Guardian Subject.


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020 7239 9913
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Dear All,

Please find attached the University of Brighton's response to your consultation. As the original email address quoted in the Guardian failed, apologies for the saturation posting which is purely to ensure delivery.

<<Guideconsultation 2007 University of Brighton Response.xls>>
Best wishes,

Judy
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Judy Evans
Senior Assistant Registrar (Student Administration and Systems)
University of Brighton
Cockcroft Building
Lewes Road
Brighton
BN2 4GJ

tel: 01273 642812
fax: 01273 642922

email: [log in to unmask]