The Australian has a weekday circulation of around 130,000, and w/e
195,000, according to Wikipedia/CAB.
I've left debate on this - thing - to sharper minds. But - it is
unutterably, gut-twistingly manufactured. It has no life. It is
perfectly vile.
Caleb.
-----Original Message-----
From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Compton
Sent: Monday, 29 January 2007 2:21 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet
I don't know Mark - but recently it was one less because husband decided
we
should just stop getting it - he said he couldn't bear it any longer -
regards - jen
----Original Message Follows----
From: Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry
and
poetics <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:35:16 -0500
I'd say the debate challenge is a trap and suggest you stay clear of it.
You'd be playing on his court.
It's pretty outrageous. What's the circulation of The Australian?
Mark
At 12:02 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote:
>why were u surprised?
>he is such an idiot - alas - and wants me to debate him into some kind
of
>safety
>no safety - weeping in the gutter of Melbourne -
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Elaine Brown <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry
and
> poetics <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:41:22 -0500
>
>Wow! That's quite a response e-mail from him. I have to admit I'm
>surprised; but he was obviously offended and many take such a tack to
deal
>with getting their feelings hurt.
>
>So, were you a "coward" or did you respond and debate? (Lordy.)
>
>Elaine
>
>
>On 1/28/07 6:38 AM, "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
> > normally i would just delete and go out and dance
> > but for yoir amusement\\Dear Jennifer,
> >
> > I"f you feel so strongly, that the poem is bad - then why don't you
>outline
> > your concerns in a letter to the editor of The Australian. I would
be
>very
> > interested to read it.
> >
> > Of course, if your objections could amount to an essay, then send it
to
>Les
> > Murray at Q - this would then allow me the opportunity to reply.
> >
> > However, if you are not prepared to say why you think it is a bad
poem,
>then
> > you may be better off saying nothing.
> >
> > I suspect you are more aware of the price of gin in Rome than you
are of
>any
> > poetry that is not trying to be another bunch of flowers.
> >
> > You probably cannot escape your own PC mucus and remain stuck in an
ego
> > constructed, self obsession and vanity - which, in the end, has
>everything
> > to do with your ideology, not my poetry.
> >
> > You don't know me well enough to write to me as you have. I have
shown
>your
> > emails to several poets, who all disagree with your monosyllabic
rather
> > silly comments.
> >
> > I will note your rude impetuous emails for future reference.
> >
> > If you are not a coward, then you may actually take up my challenge
to
> > debate the poem.
> >
> > ...but I bet your a coward.
> >
> >
> > P. "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton"
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Did you write this poem?
> >
> >
> > It hasn't upset me - it is just so bad! I really couldn't
believe it
>was
> > you that wrote it.
> > Any poet can write a bad poem - but it makes one wonder about the
intent
>of
> > the person who publishes the poem.
> > Can you tell me who commissioned you?
> >
> > regards - jen
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Did you write this poem?
> > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:05:46 +1100
> >
> > Dear Jennifer,
> >
> > Yes, I wrote this poem. It is the second of a suite I am writing
around
>the
> > subject.
> > I am sorry you found it 'incredibly' bad. If you had just found it
'bad'
>I
> > would have been more concerned.
> > I am including a copy of 'How to be Australian (1)' which was
published
>in
> > the Australian on Australia Day 2006. The next in the suite will be
> > published on Australia Day 2008. I am also attaching an essay which
>picks up
> > on some of the concerns of the poem, so you will be able to be fully
> > informed on the thinking which has clearly upset you.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Patrick.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton"
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:05 AM
> > Subject: Did you write this poem?
> >
> >
> >
http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21119511-601,00.html
> >
> > it is being discussed on poetry etc?
> >
> > it is an incredibly bad poem - i so hope it wasn't you
> >
> > cheers from jen
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: seeking Vivian Hopkirk
> > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:05:18 +1100
> >
> > Dear Jen,
> >
> > Yes he stayed
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]>
> > Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to
poetry
>and
> > poetics <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: How to be Orstrilian
> > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +1100
> >
> > Thanks Jen - a sort of masochistic curiosity prompts me to ask you
to
> > post the essay, though I think I know the thesis already -
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > A
> >
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