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Hi Mark - don't forget Murdoch owns the London Times. He's not all page 3 girls. The Australian is a broadsheet, our sole national daily. Fwiw, the arts section often has more intelligent comment than the local broadsheet, The Age. All the best A On 1/29/07, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I checked it on Wikipedia. 130,000 weekdays, 195,000 weekends. Reason > I asked is that it seemed like crank stuff, but apparently, despite > its tiny circulation, it's fairly influential. Of course, anything > owned by Murdoch has a pretty broad license in the direction of the brutish. > > Mark > > > At 10:21 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote: > >I don't know Mark - but recently it was one less because husband > >decided we should just stop getting it - he said he couldn't bear it > >any longer - regards - jen > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and > > poetics <[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet > >Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:35:16 -0500 > > > >I'd say the debate challenge is a trap and suggest you stay clear of > >it. You'd be playing on his court. > > > >It's pretty outrageous. What's the circulation of The Australian? > > > >Mark > > > >At 12:02 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote: > >>why were u surprised? > >>he is such an idiot - alas - and wants me to debate him into some > >>kind of safety > >>no safety - weeping in the gutter of Melbourne - > >> > >> > >>----Original Message Follows---- > >>From: Elaine Brown <[log in to unmask]> > >>Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and > >> poetics <[log in to unmask]> > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet > >>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:41:22 -0500 > >> > >>Wow! That's quite a response e-mail from him. I have to admit I'm > >>surprised; but he was obviously offended and many take such a tack to deal > >>with getting their feelings hurt. > >> > >>So, were you a "coward" or did you respond and debate? (Lordy.) > >> > >>Elaine > >> > >> > >>On 1/28/07 6:38 AM, "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]> > >>wrote: > >> > >> > normally i would just delete and go out and dance > >> > but for yoir amusement\\Dear Jennifer, > >> > > >> > I"f you feel so strongly, that the poem is bad - then why don't > >> you outline > >> > your concerns in a letter to the editor of The Australian. I would be very > >> > interested to read it. > >> > > >> > Of course, if your objections could amount to an essay, then > >> send it to Les > >> > Murray at Q - this would then allow me the opportunity to reply. > >> > > >> > However, if you are not prepared to say why you think it is a > >> bad poem, then > >> > you may be better off saying nothing. > >> > > >> > I suspect you are more aware of the price of gin in Rome than > >> you are of any > >> > poetry that is not trying to be another bunch of flowers. > >> > > >> > You probably cannot escape your own PC mucus and remain stuck in an ego > >> > constructed, self obsession and vanity - which, in the end, has everything > >> > to do with your ideology, not my poetry. > >> > > >> > You don't know me well enough to write to me as you have. I have > >> shown your > >> > emails to several poets, who all disagree with your monosyllabic rather > >> > silly comments. > >> > > >> > I will note your rude impetuous emails for future reference. > >> > > >> > If you are not a coward, then you may actually take up my challenge to > >> > debate the poem. > >> > > >> > ...but I bet your a coward. > >> > > >> > > >> > P. " > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton" > >> > <[log in to unmask]> > >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:53 PM > >> > Subject: Re: Did you write this poem? > >> > > >> > > >> > It hasn't upset me - it is just so bad! I really couldn't > >> believe it was > >> > you that wrote it. > >> > Any poet can write a bad poem - but it makes one wonder about > >> the intent of > >> > the person who publishes the poem. > >> > Can you tell me who commissioned you? > >> > > >> > regards - jen > >> > > >> > > >> > ----Original Message Follows---- > >> > From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Subject: Re: Did you write this poem? > >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:05:46 +1100 > >> > > >> > Dear Jennifer, > >> > > >> > Yes, I wrote this poem. It is the second of a suite I am writing > >> around the > >> > subject. > >> > I am sorry you found it 'incredibly' bad. If you had just found it 'bad' I > >> > would have been more concerned. > >> > I am including a copy of 'How to be Australian (1)' which was published in > >> > the Australian on Australia Day 2006. The next in the suite will be > >> > published on Australia Day 2008. I am also attaching an essay > >> which picks up > >> > on some of the concerns of the poem, so you will be able to be fully > >> > informed on the thinking which has clearly upset you. > >> > > >> > cheers, > >> > > >> > Patrick. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton" > >> > <[log in to unmask]> > >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:05 AM > >> > Subject: Did you write this poem? > >> > > >> > > >> > http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21119511-601,00.html > >> > > >> > it is being discussed on poetry etc? > >> > > >> > it is an incredibly bad poem - i so hope it wasn't you > >> > > >> > cheers from jen > >> > > >> > ----Original Message Follows---- > >> > From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Subject: Re: seeking Vivian Hopkirk > >> > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:05:18 +1100 > >> > > >> > Dear Jen, > >> > > >> > Yes he stayed > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----Original Message Follows---- > >> > From: Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and > >> > poetics <[log in to unmask]> > >> > To: [log in to unmask] > >> > Subject: Re: How to be Orstrilian > >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +1100 > >> > > >> > Thanks Jen - a sort of masochistic curiosity prompts me to ask you to > >> > post the essay, though I think I know the thesis already - > >> > > >> > Cheers > >> > > >> > A > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. 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