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> Quoting Stephen Vincent <[log in to unmask]>: > >> Roger, I was, of course, being ironic - if not absolutely cutting - about >> the Southern Agragarian's kind disposition towards 'their' African-American >> help. >> These SA's to my memory were much of what you say. >> >> I like some of the ironic, historic juxtapositions - Hart Crane camping out >> in Allen Tate's front yard (his mentor) and explanation for the tight >> formalism of much of his work (much of it always wanting to bust out at its >> seams which accounts for its power). > > - ahem, I know young Lowell camped on Tate's lawn, and that Crane corresponded > with Yvor Winters, but always having found Crane's poems indigestible have > stayed > ignorant about a Tate-Crane connection... > Where formalism works (for me), I ride with it. Crane, Roethke. Essentially borderline sensibilities, that require the formal 'container' to falling off into the dark. Both of those of, depending on the poem, can be a delight to read aloud, and I have done so in classes or among friends. Plath also required the container for what I always took as hysteria. I just do not read her with relish, never have. Etc. Stephen V http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > Max R > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au