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I checked it on Wikipedia. 130,000 weekdays, 195,000 weekends. Reason I asked is that it seemed like crank stuff, but apparently, despite its tiny circulation, it's fairly influential. Of course, anything owned by Murdoch has a pretty broad license in the direction of the brutish. Mark At 10:21 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote: >I don't know Mark - but recently it was one less because husband >decided we should just stop getting it - he said he couldn't bear it >any longer - regards - jen > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and > poetics <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet >Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:35:16 -0500 > >I'd say the debate challenge is a trap and suggest you stay clear of >it. You'd be playing on his court. > >It's pretty outrageous. What's the circulation of The Australian? > >Mark > >At 12:02 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote: >>why were u surprised? >>he is such an idiot - alas - and wants me to debate him into some >>kind of safety >>no safety - weeping in the gutter of Melbourne - >> >> >>----Original Message Follows---- >>From: Elaine Brown <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and >> poetics <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet >>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:41:22 -0500 >> >>Wow! That's quite a response e-mail from him. I have to admit I'm >>surprised; but he was obviously offended and many take such a tack to deal >>with getting their feelings hurt. >> >>So, were you a "coward" or did you respond and debate? (Lordy.) >> >>Elaine >> >> >>On 1/28/07 6:38 AM, "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]> >>wrote: >> >> > normally i would just delete and go out and dance >> > but for yoir amusement\\Dear Jennifer, >> > >> > I"f you feel so strongly, that the poem is bad - then why don't >> you outline >> > your concerns in a letter to the editor of The Australian. I would be very >> > interested to read it. >> > >> > Of course, if your objections could amount to an essay, then >> send it to Les >> > Murray at Q - this would then allow me the opportunity to reply. >> > >> > However, if you are not prepared to say why you think it is a >> bad poem, then >> > you may be better off saying nothing. >> > >> > I suspect you are more aware of the price of gin in Rome than >> you are of any >> > poetry that is not trying to be another bunch of flowers. >> > >> > You probably cannot escape your own PC mucus and remain stuck in an ego >> > constructed, self obsession and vanity - which, in the end, has everything >> > to do with your ideology, not my poetry. >> > >> > You don't know me well enough to write to me as you have. I have >> shown your >> > emails to several poets, who all disagree with your monosyllabic rather >> > silly comments. >> > >> > I will note your rude impetuous emails for future reference. >> > >> > If you are not a coward, then you may actually take up my challenge to >> > debate the poem. >> > >> > ...but I bet your a coward. >> > >> > >> > P. " >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton" >> > <[log in to unmask]> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:53 PM >> > Subject: Re: Did you write this poem? >> > >> > >> > It hasn't upset me - it is just so bad! I really couldn't >> believe it was >> > you that wrote it. >> > Any poet can write a bad poem - but it makes one wonder about >> the intent of >> > the person who publishes the poem. >> > Can you tell me who commissioned you? >> > >> > regards - jen >> > >> > >> > ----Original Message Follows---- >> > From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]> >> > To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]> >> > Subject: Re: Did you write this poem? >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:05:46 +1100 >> > >> > Dear Jennifer, >> > >> > Yes, I wrote this poem. It is the second of a suite I am writing >> around the >> > subject. >> > I am sorry you found it 'incredibly' bad. If you had just found it 'bad' I >> > would have been more concerned. >> > I am including a copy of 'How to be Australian (1)' which was published in >> > the Australian on Australia Day 2006. The next in the suite will be >> > published on Australia Day 2008. I am also attaching an essay >> which picks up >> > on some of the concerns of the poem, so you will be able to be fully >> > informed on the thinking which has clearly upset you. >> > >> > cheers, >> > >> > Patrick. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton" >> > <[log in to unmask]> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> >> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:05 AM >> > Subject: Did you write this poem? >> > >> > >> > http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21119511-601,00.html >> > >> > it is being discussed on poetry etc? >> > >> > it is an incredibly bad poem - i so hope it wasn't you >> > >> > cheers from jen >> > >> > ----Original Message Follows---- >> > From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]> >> > To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]> >> > Subject: Re: seeking Vivian Hopkirk >> > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:05:18 +1100 >> > >> > Dear Jen, >> > >> > Yes he stayed >> > >> > >> > >> > ----Original Message Follows---- >> > From: Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> >> > Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and >> > poetics <[log in to unmask]> >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: Re: How to be Orstrilian >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +1100 >> > >> > Thanks Jen - a sort of masochistic curiosity prompts me to ask you to >> > post the essay, though I think I know the thesis already - >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > A >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. 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