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I may add to this that indeed both ingenta, and Wiley claim to deliver COUNTER compliant usage statistics on their website (ingenta in their Library services summary brochure, Wiley in their product brochures on the PRODUCTS AND SERVICES FOR LIBRARIANS website) while they are de-facto no longer COUNTER compliant. The same with Swets. Although the current scarce intro on the SwetsWise website does not explicitely mention COUNTER compliance, other older online brochures still available on the Swets website do so, cf. http://informationservices.swets.com/web/show/id=41707 "The reporting tool is also fully compliant with the latest “COUNTER” industry standards and can be easily merged with other data. Need a report for a presentation or meeting? Simply select formats that will organize your data in a readable fashion" - the German version explicitely refers to a "level 2" compliance, and there is an old Swets Blackwell press release stating that Swets is the "First Subscription Agent to Achieve COUNTER Level 2 Compliance". Unfortunately, this was level 2 of the former release 1, not release 2 as one might think. Also a November 2005 press release in connection with SUSHI prominently featured COUNTER compliance while Swets only a month later ceased to be COUNTER compliant. This is certainly misleading, and all three vendors should be required to make a prominent note that they are currently NOT COUNTER compliant but strive to regain COUNTER compliance, if that is what they do, hopefully. Bernd-Christoph Kaemper, Stuttgart University Library ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ----- Von: Bernd-Christoph Kaemper <[log in to unmask]> Datum: Mittwoch, Januar 24, 2007 6:32 pm Betreff: Re: [LIS-E-JOURNALS] COUNTER Compliant vendors or not > You have to remember that the COUNTER standard evolves. > There were a number of vendors and agencies (for example Swets > - I know because I have already complained several times about > their failure to remain COUNTER compliant) who did not yet > manage to upgrade to Release 2 - consequently they are no longer > listed as COUNTER compliant. Release 2 was published in May > 2005 and became the valid Code of Practice for Journals and > Databases on Jan 1, 2006, so it is hard to understand why > vendors were not able to implement the required changes in time. > I can only ask you to put pressure on them by requiring them > to deliver COUNTER compliant statistics in your license > agreements. Otherwise, COUNTER will lose its effectiveness as > an industry standard. Another reason for a delay may be that > COUNTER vendors must audit on a regular basis to maintain their > COUNTER compliant status. If these audits failed or are not yet > completed, they may be some delay. > > Best regards, > Bernd-Christoph Kaemper, Stuttgart University Library > > ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ----- > Von: S Nieminen <[log in to unmask]> > Datum: Mittwoch, Januar 24, 2007 6:03 pm > Betreff: [LIS-E-JOURNALS] COUNTER Compliant vendors or not > > > Apologies for cross-posting. > > > > While compiling a list of COUNTER compliant resources at our > > institution I > > went to cross-check my findings at Compliant Vendors webpage > > http://www.projectcounter.org/articles.html. I was surprised > > to find that a number of vendors that provide us with COUNTER > > stats > > were not listed as compliant. As examples I can give Wiley > > Interscience and Ingenta. I also found that a number of vendors > > were > > listed as "members", including Ingenta. How can we discern > between > > COUNTER compliant and non-compliant vendors? Are members compliant? > > If they are, why are they not on the list? What about those > vendors > > who seem to be providing compliant stats but are not listed? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Satu Nieminen > > Electronic Resources Librarian > > The University of Bradford > > >