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>I think that the true infertility is the very lack of meaningful historical experience. It?s a society of pure meaningless hedonism. Today, ideology is no longer big causes such as socialism, >equality, justice, democracy. The basic injunction is ?have a good time? or to put it in more spiritualist terms ?realize yourself?. This is why I think Dalai Lama is such a big hit. He preaches >enlightened Hollywood egotism; be happy, realize your potentials and so on and so on. And this is our despair today. I think that this film gives the best diagnosis of the ideological >despair of late capitalism. Of a society without history, or, to use another political term, bio politics. And my god, this film literally is about bio politics. i have not seen the film, and cannot claim to have understood -- i mean really understood -- the zizek that i've read, which is much of zizek . . . but . . . so far as i can tell, this a lament precisely about the absence of ideology, the replacement of identity politics by an agenda of pure ego gratification devoid of historical anchoring . . . so i find myself wondering: isn't it ironic that after two generations of almost universal lamentation about the pernicious fall-out of ideologies, we now suddenly find ourselves hearing about the tragedy of a-historicity? . . . hmmmm. . . . in view of the fact that zizek worries about the contemporary world being "meaningless," maybe the central question can be posed this way [and with full recognition that all these words are multiply loaded] : is meaning itself possible without ideology?? mike . * * Film-Philosophy Email Discussion Salon. After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. **