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So how does the "admin" cost compare to the published print price of the books in question? George. -----Original Message----- From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Jarman Sent: 23 January 2007 14:57 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Charge for ebooks for visually-impaired students No! Printed copies have not been mentioned. It was just admin costs as in the quotation I gave in the original. Paul. Paul Jarman, Disability Support Officer, 2.39 Francis Bancroft Building, Queen Mary, University of London, Mile End Road, LONDON. E1 4NS Tel.: +44 (0)20 7882-2757, Fax: +44 (0)20 7882-5223, E-Mail: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Barry G Sent: 23 January 2007 14:41 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Charge for ebooks for visually-impaired students Hi Paul, was this admin cost on top of the purchase price of a printed copy of the book? All the best, Barry G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Jarman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Charge for ebooks for visually-impaired students Hello everyone, I would very much like to know whether anyone else is being charged by publishers for the obtaining of e-copies of books for use by visually-impaired students. As you all probably know, the obtaining of e-books for my VI students is an area which I have worked hard on personally over the last few years, and often with great success. I have dealt with a considerable number of publishers, both small and large, across the UK, and seldom with any real adverse reaction when I have fully explained the current law and the needs of my students. However, for the first time ever, I have today received a response from one of the UK's major university presses saying that, while they are happy to send me the relevant two books in PDF format, they will also be sending me "our invoice for £50 plus VAT, to cover the administrative and postage costs involved". While I am not going to name the publisher, I have to say that I have only had one previous dealing with them, about two years ago, when they claimed that they didn't have the relevant title that I wanted in e-format. I should add that I have also heard some not very good things from others about this particular publisher and their willingness to help in such matters, but I will only name and shame if enough people come back to me on this group to say that they are also not used to being charged for e-books for these purposes. All I can say personally is that, at 50 pounds plus VAT for just two titles, my Department's budget would disappear very quickly indeed at such rates, especially with six visually-impaired students here this year. These particular titles were requested for one of our post-graduate VI students, and the reading list from which it was taken contains 63 titles alone. That would be well over 1500 pounds alone, excluding VAT, if I was to pay this particular publishers so-called admin costs. Please share your experiences with me, and, if you are quite used to picking up what I personally think are astronomical costs, then how do you do it? Paul. Paul Jarman, Disability Support Officer, 2.39 Francis Bancroft Building, Queen Mary, University of London, Mile End Road, LONDON. E1 4NS Tel.: +44 (0)20 7882-2757, Fax: +44 (0)20 7882-5223, E-Mail: [log in to unmask]