The government needs to find - and definitely not "create" - that better example and show it to us. I don't understand what data-sharing they are not be allowed to do by law, which I would want them to do and would therefore consent to. Hopefully these citizen panels who are supposedly going to give the views of the "public" will get better information than the news media are reporting. Tim Turner Data Protection / FOI Officer Legal and Property Services Wigan Council -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Landau Sent: Mon 15 January 2007 10:37 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] More Information Sharing It is not a very good example as far as Data Protection is concerned, but I am sure that an example could have been created for living people where linkage of information between departments might have been useful - although whether it would be desirable would be another matter. After all, how many times do people complain about bureaucracy and the different departments that one has to ring up. In a way the argument is saying that bureaucracy protects people's liberty - which it does (ie not having one vast single Government dept) - although I am not quite sure members of the public might see it that way. Of course, the public might want it both ways - which is not unusual. And presumably the restrictions which are in place because of such concerns do then hamper exchange of information after someone dies - after all they were formerly living and presumably those checks don't suddenly disappear because they have just died. Indeed a good way to obtain information about a living person might be to claim that they had just died! ;) Nick Landau ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Perry" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [data-protection] More Information Sharing > In message <00ab01c737d8$5d3b9d00$d1ad8f56@Nick>, at 12:34:41 on Sun, 14 > Jan 2007, Nick Landau <[log in to unmask]> writes >>The department cites an example of a family who had a total of 44 contacts >>with government over 180 days trying to make the necessary arrangements >>after a family member died in a road accident. >> >>Too often, says the review team, it may be legally forbidden to use >>information other than for a single purpose." > > But I thought the DPA didn't apply to dead people? > -- > Roland Perry > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list > owner > [log in to unmask] > Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your > needs > To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: > SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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