medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Actually, I though the joke would be funny if the speakers were reversed (and would be more acceptable in the rather rarified PC air we are all trying to breathe): i.e. A husband said to his wife, Honey, for our anniversary I'd like to go somewhere...etc. And she said.... jbw ________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Maureen A. Tilley Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:32 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] Recent titles-Henny Youngman jokes medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture To members of the list, I had thought the better of replying to the missive with the Henny Youngman joke because I thought Diana Wright said all that needed to be said, but alas, it looks like not. I do hope that members of the list can refrain from posting jokes that demean any group, especially ones to which people who subscribe to the list belong. I supect the exception might be to call to our attention--for scholarly reasons-- to jokes of the Middle Ages that are germane to concerns of members of the list. Maureen A. Tilley Visiting Professor of Theology Fordham University, Lincoln Center Campus New York, NY 10023 212-636-6369 -----medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture <[log in to unmask]> wrote: ----- To: [log in to unmask] From: Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture <[log in to unmask]> Date: 12/04/2006 01:05PM Subject: Re: [M-R] Recent titles medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture From: Diana Wright <[log in to unmask]> > I presume such remarks are allowed on this list because they are so exquisitely expressive of the general attitude toward women held by medieval male religious. yes. yes, they are. i neglected to make the obvious middlevil connection, in part because it relates to my own personal experience. my acquaintance with Henny Youngman ("King of the One Liners") began quite late, in both our lives, with his cameo appearance in one of my All Time Favorite Flicks, Martin Scorsese's _Goodfellas_ http://imdb.com/title/tt0099685/ he appears at the end of what is the Longest Single Shot in Cinema History, as the main character and his girlfriend go to "The Copa" on a date, starting out leaving their car in the street, entering the club through a back door, down stairs, through passageways, through the kitchen, into the club itself, around tables, etc., all without a cut. There is Henny, doing his floorshow. not all of Henny's jokes were about his wife (the famous: "Take my wife, please. I take my wife everywhere, but she always finds her way home"), though the best of them are. some of them deal with other aflicted minority groups, like Doctors: "Dr. Wilson is in the audience tonight. A great doctor. Gave a patient 6 months to live, fella couldn't pay his bill, gave him another 6 months." but there's no meddlevil connection to that which even i can discover. the subject of the film itself is the inner workings of a crew of small-time, more or less psycotic mobsters in NYC over the decades from the '50s to the '80s, and how they relate to the Larger World of Organised Crime. ("By 1970 there was a hundred million dollars worth of goods going through the airport and we tried to steal *all* of it.") as best i can make out, what is being described (in considerable detail) is a system of organised criminal activity which resembles nothing quite so much as that which we euphemistically call "The European Aristocracy" in the M.A. perhaps the major difference, as DW implies, is that among the latter women were treated, not so much as property, but as the vector of property transfer and accumulation. the women in Goodfellas don't have quite such a high status as that. c > Christopher Crockett wrote: > > >From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > >>(Discussing this with one professor, I queried why anyone would do this but > >> > >> > >he said - apparently with feeling - "If I wanted to hide something from my > >wife, I would put it in a book!") > > > > > >puts me in mind of the "one-liner" by the regretted Henny Youngman > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Youngman > > > >"My wife said to me, 'For our anniversary I want to go somewhere I've never > >been before.' I said, 'Try the kitchen!'" > > > > > >c > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html