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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Sorry: by 'by then' I mean the early decades of the c16. These pews are late. I don't think you get such motifs even in Royal circles until 1510 or so. Thought: could these pews be Post-Reformation? Providing one unhitched them from the rood screen (which *from memory* is earlier), is it anything but an assumption that congregational pews would not be installed in (say) the 1540s rather than the 1520s/30s? Rather like the 'Saxo-Norman overlap...' ? .. Jon -----Original Message----- From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon Cannon Sent: 01 December 2006 18:49 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] pew ends again medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The first one in particular is such a good approximation of an early Renaissance arabesque that I would think it's worth looking for a model in some of the books containing such engravings that were around in England by then. I don't know if anyone on-list can supply a reference to one; I just know I've come across other cases of English carvings being traced directly to specific such engravings. Am trying to think where. Both these pew ends look as if they've been left out in the elements for rather too long, rather than fire-damaged; that would explain the splitting, too. Jon ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html