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Hi all Carl - on the issue of financial viability of the meeting (which I guess boils down to numbers that might attend) I will endeavour to join the meeting, so in principle you can count me in. Would it be helpful for others to indicate there interest now in order to focus the search for venue etc? Re: theme, I like all the suggestions so far and am keen to participate in whatever the list decides. just to complicate matters, picking up on a theme from Paul's post about globalisation and thinking about the social & economic consequences of this, perhaps Professor Richard Wilkinson, social epidemiologist at University of Nottingham, might be an interesting speaker for this meeting (if we go with globalisation) or a future day of discussion. His work shows how inequality relates to health and social outcomes. The global economic model being pushed as part of the globalisation agenda, having its roots in the economic structures of nations with the most inequitable socio-economic structures, I can only consider will lead to greater inequlity in nations to which it is introduced / on which it is imposed via World Bank, IMF and WTO diktats. Richard Wilkinson's work leads to the conclusion that a psychosocial pathway underlies the relationships between greater levels of inequality and poorer outcomes for society as a whole, once a society has passed the threshold where infectious diseases become relatively well controlled, and degenerative diseases and health risk behaviours replace them as most frequent mortality causes. When I think about this work, I am often left with a sense of confusion about how exactly this psychosocial pathway operates, what it would look like from a (community) psychological perspective and what can be done to change it. I would be interested to see how a dialogue between the community psychology movement and the social-epidemiology of Wilkinson could lead to action to deepen understanding of the harmful effects of inequality and associated psychosocial pathways and what work could be done at 'the grass roots' to reverse this trend locally, nationally and globally. I think community psychology has a huge potential contribution to make to this - orthodox individualising psychology would, I think, struggle to grasp or even ignore/obfuscate the social and political implications of the pathway proposed by Wilkinson. If anyone has any ideas about the issues raised here or knows of any work that has been done by community psychologists using or influenced by Wilkinson's paradigm I'd be keen to hear from you. Gareth ----- Original Message ---- From: Harris Carl (R3) BCH <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:22:57 AM Subject: Re: Future meetings and conferences for the community psychology network - Wha Many Thanks Paul and Annie These are very helpful responses to the questions we asked the list. Looking forward to further discussion. Carl From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Annie Mitchell Sent: 31 October 2006 09:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Future meetings and conferences for the community psychology network - Wha Thanks west midlands group. OK; I’m just brainstorming here. There is so much I’d like to learn about/ consider in relation to psychology’s possible contributions to as well as challenges to global injustices. These sound like mind expanding suggestions from Paul which I’d be up for though I’d want to do some explicit connections back to community psychology one way or another if so. . In terms of a product/ outcome, a thought/ hope we had had was abut trying to produce a shared statement about along the lines of Psychologists for Social Responsibility in US in relation to psychologists’ use of torture, and maybe b) take some action to try to influence the BPS in relation to this. I wondered if Mark Burton would be willing to contribute something for us (since you wrote such a good piece Mark recently)?. Or would there be a natural development from anything that came up at the London inaugural meeting recently? Or, an alternative approach ( in relation to global issues more generally) might be to look at the analysis of well-being produced by Layard and work towards articulating a vision/ develop proposals for alternative set of psychosocial actions that link well-being with more global concerns as a complement/ alternative to the psychological therapies “solutions”/ proposals that are currently being promoted. Maybe some of us are already doing some work along those lines already that they would be willing to share? Or, we could so some shared learning about Palestine/ Israel and consider what role psychology may have in supporting community efforts to deal with trauma and to promote mutual understanding across communities ( eg the work of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions)…. And/ or maybe we could have a combination of a stimulating speaker followed by some sort of participative an open space process? Now, it’s easy to shower out brain storm ideas and I am not wedded to any of these..– much harder to carve them into something do-able in one day .. Annie Annie Mitchell Clinical Director, Doctorate in Clinical Psychology, Faculty of Health and Social Work, University of Plymouth, Peninsula Allied Health Collaboration, College of St Mark and St John , Derriford Road, Plymouth, Devon PL6 8BH Phone Programme Administrators: Jane Murch, Emma Hellingbury 01752 233786 Please note I work 3 days per week: usually Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday or Thursday. -----Original Message----- From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Cotterill Sent: 30 October 2006 16:27 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Future meetings and conferences for the community psychology network - Wha Carl I attended the Great Yarmouth conference from a mix of curiosity about this beast called Community Psychology and a love of Victorian piers. I've been looking at this disucssion for, with interest since then While in GY, I banged on to anyone with enough patience to listen (amd my, you're a patient lot, you Community Pyschologists) about what I there and then decided was a real potential for a productive joining of forces of CP and political science/analysis. Now that you invite views on what might be a suitable 'global' issue for the March/April conference you're planning in West Midlands , I thought I might throw in the idea of getting someone from poltical science in to speak about 'globalisation as self-fulfilling prophecy'. By that I mean that governments (and sub governments) become convinced of the need to adopt neo-liberal social and economic strtategies, often to the detriment of their own populations, by the fact that other governments and sub-governments are convinced of the inevitability of globalisation, and are therefore afraid they'll be left behind; however careful scrutiny of data suggests that in fact globalisation is not inevitable, and that for example maintaining relatively high taxes/welfare states does not in fact lead to international disinvestment. The challenge therefore is to debunk the 'globalisation and its effects are inevitable' thesis. As far as I know (and i don't know much about it) a leading person on this, who might just be interested in attending and speaking (and listening to where CP is coming from), is Professor Colin Hay, who happens to be Professor of Political Analysis at Birmingham University. For a full profile and a load of relevant articles/books, see http://www.polsis.bham.ac.uk/department/staff/profiles/hay.htm. This site also refers to others who might pick up an invitation - David Marsh, Bob Jessop etc. If 'war' is the direction people want to go for the conference, as it were, then perhaps that won't be so relevant, of course. I did however read an article by Darko Suvin in Critical Quarterly the other day, and thought of the CP community. It's at http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-8705.2006.00720.x - for some reason I've never quite understood the site won't let me download the pdf file to email it direct so you'll need an Athens or Blackwell password to get it, though if anyone looks at the abstract and really wants it but can't get it, I can always do a bit of cut and paste of the full text thingummy. It's quite wordy in its erudition (partly as it's second languate erudition, or possibly fourteenth judging by what he references), but I think it does take on quite 'bravely' issues around how we might move beyond anti-war campaigning (and Ghandi-ist action) through the development of participative structures and thinking. As he says, utopian yes, but also maybe the only sensible way forward. He also likes Bertolt Brecht, so he get my vote come the thoroughly peace-loving revolution (as long as it's got soft furnishings). Best Paul " The UK Community Psychology Discussion List " <[log in to unmask]> on 30 October 2006 at 15:58 +0000 wrote: The West Midlands Group met on Friday and gave a Hello Everybody The West Midlands Group met on Friday and gave approval to hosting an event in March/April. There were some conditions attached to this approval, namely: that the event be financially viable; that a suitable venue be identified; that an appropriate "global" issue be identified (as well as a clearly defined product or outcome for the day); and that a suitable speaker(s) be identified and available. The West Midlands Group will begin making enquiries regarding the practical issues of venue and cost. Here are some enquiries for the list under the following headings. Specific Theme for the Meeting We ask that the list help us identify an issue to be addressed. The general theme of "war" has been suggested. If people could begin to consider a more specific community psychology element with regard to "war", and then share these thoughts on the list, that would be helpful to us. Issue to be addressed in the Meeting We would like to be able to have a clear idea of what the list wants to address in the meeting. That will help us to see which individuals or agencies might contribute to the actions of the day, so that we can ask them to come. Planned outcome of the meeting It will help to have an idea of what outcome or product people are looking for from the meeting. This will help us plan the process of the day, as well as make sure that we have involved any agencies who might be interested in such an outcome. Please feel free to make suggestions We have picked up from the discussion at the end of the Great Yarmouth Conference that there is a movement to take action and to have influence with others as well as amongst ourselves. If anybody on the list has experience/ideas about how to do that effectively and can contribute to the design/approach to the day, please do not hesitate to get in touch. You can do this electronically, of course, or phone me on 0121 243 2036. Cheers Carl -----Original Message----- From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Harris Carl (R3) BCH Sent: 24 October 2006 12:28 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Future meetings and conferences for the community psychology network - What to do? The West Midlands Critical and Community Psychol Hello Everybody The West Midlands Critical and Community Psychology Interest Group are due to meet on Friday. This will be our first opportunity to discuss the proposed meeting in six months time. We will be able to give a clearer picture from our point of view after that meeting. We will be working from the same planned round of meetings that Annie summarised, ie "1) a meeting arranged by Carl et al in 6 months around issues of war (and possibly subsequently other ad hoc meetings elsewhere on other topics) 2) a conference next year September/ October organised by Jacqui in York with help from a few of us 3) possibly an east Midlands conference either one year or 18 months after the York one" The only departure from this summary is that I have "global issues" rather than "war" as the focus of the meeting in six months. Please let me know if you think there are other matters to take into account in planning the meeting. Cheers Carl -----Original Message----- From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jacqueline Akhurst Sent: 24 October 2006 09:51 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Future meetings and conferences for the community psychology network - What to do? Dear all, The arrangements for the conference in York for 13-14 September 2007 seem to be on track. I have made a booking with our conference office, and the terms are very reasonable, with the costs likely to be similar to this year's (viz. about £80). There is also reasonably priced B&B accommodation available on campus at £27.50 for the 13th, and at that time York shouldn't be too crowded with tourists, so other accommodation will also be possible. Overall, it looks like the pragmatics will be relatively unproblematic. Thanks to those folk who've offered assistance - I'm sure we'll be able to go ahead, and will be in touch 'off list' in the next week or so. I'm also supportive of the meetings as outlined by Annie below. All the best, Jacqui Dr Jacqui Akhurst Senior Lecturer: Psychology York St John University Lord Mayors Walk YORK YO31 7EX United Kingdom +44 (0) 1904 876744 email: [log in to unmask] As of 1 October 2006, York St John University College became York St John University ________________________________ From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List on behalf of Annie Mitchell Sent: Mon 23/10/2006 17:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Future meetings and conferences for the community psychology network - What to do? That's what I think/ hope we are doing; 1) a meeting arranged by Carl et al in 6 months around issues of war (and possibly subsequently other ad hoc meetings elsewhere on other topics) 2) a conference next year September/ October organised by Jacqui in York with help from a few of us 3) possibly an east Midlands conference either one year or 18 months after the York one Annie Annie Mitchell Clinical Director, Doctorate in Clinical Psychology, Faculty of Health and Social Work, University of Plymouth , Peninsula Allied Health Collaboration, College of St Mark and St John , Derriford Road , Plymouth , Devon PL6 8BH Phone Programme Administrators: Jane Murch, Emma Hellingbury 01752 233786 Please note I work 3 days per week: usually Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday or Thursday. -----Original Message----- From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Diamond Bob Sent: 23 October 2006 10:39 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Future meetings and conferences for the community psychology network - What to do? I'd like to check with everyone what the latest understanding is about future conferences and meetings. As there haven't been any further postings recently on the list, are we agreed on the following: the next conference will be in York next September and Jacqui will facilitate with support from others. Would it be helpful to clarify whether or not there should be a one day meeting between now and the conference. It was suggested that this could be in Birmingham in Spring and Carl had offered to book a venue. In keeping with our open, inviting at times rambling ways in the network, I'm not sure how we now make a decision. Bob ___________________________________ COMMUNITYPSYCHUK - The discussion list for community psychology in the UK . 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