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the word 'poesy' is an abomination. ;p "in its presence there is nothing original and new?" what do you mean? KS On 29/09/06, joe green <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Saying "it" originally makes it original. "It" no longer "it" but something else and new. Why else read great poesy? Lear does what -- reflect on the human condition, on madness, death, betrayal, jealousy, nothingness and in the end, in its presence there is nothing original and new? Nah... > > Kasper Salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: P what I mean is that the themes that recur in poetry -- mainly the > many ills & hangups & wonders of the 'human condition' -- have gone on > recurring every since mankind first thought out of his or her box. as > times change, the form that said ills/hangups/wonders take also > inescapably change, but the issues themselves can almost be said to > exist inherently. which is why it can be called the 'human condition' > with a more or less straight face. > > K S > > On 28/09/06, Patrick Mc Manus > wrote: > > Hang on here what do you mean poetry says nothing original-why not ?? > > Einstein could have written in verse???did he E=mc2 > > Has a ring to it > > P confused P > > Ps my verse has been original on rare occasions ask Vile Boris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and > > poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kasper Salonen > > Sent: 28 September 2006 14:29 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: quote unquote > > > > I agree with that. poetry says nothing original, it just says it > > _originally_. > > > > KS > > > > On 28/09/06, andrew burke wrote: > > > I throw this in just as a discussion point. > > > It was a 'google' quote of the day today: > > > > > > In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood > > > by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But in poetry, > > > it's the exact opposite. > > > - Paul Dirac > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Andrew > > > http://hispirits.blogspot.com/ > > > http://www.bam.com.au/andrew > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. >