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Dear Jack, Thank you for your reply. Because you are so overtly committed to public accountability in your dealings with others I am copying to the BERA list where our conversation should take place. As seminar leader it is not appropriate to put you in touch privately with Donna. Please reply about her work to the entire list. You might like to join BERA-TEACHER-RESEARCHER as well? Where you say you will respond to Donna 'if you have time' I wonder if that was the underpinning value that you used when you ignored the work by Donna and her colleagues on the list? Certainly if you are so short of time you cannot respond to one teacher perhaps you should carefully consider if you have time to run an extension of Pete's seminar, if the list agrees to it. Let me reiterate what may have been missed. I do not believe that a private email to me is appropriate about Donna's work. I do not wish you to use bathspa.ac.uk or bath.ac.uk accounts. May I suggest you ask the list who wishes to continue the seminar. Can they reply to Brian? If the general feeling is in favour that's fair. I request Brian also asks who wants a new seminar. You seem to misunderstand - I don't want to drive the new seminar. I want a teacher to lead who is independent of us both (as HEI representatives) to lead discussion on our Practitioner list. Yes - I do know lots of teachers - many of them used to work with both us us, Jack and they express great sorrow that you and I no longer work as a team. We were a highly effective one! For my part, I bear no grudge towards you just annoyance when you use my video footage in your BERA papers and don't acknowledge it. I hope your mail to me reflects a fresh approach. Kind regards, Sarah re email from Jack Whitehead on 10 October 2005 On 10 Oct 2005, at 09:17, Sarah Fletcher wrote: Dear Jack As seminar leader for a session that ended some weeks ago What did you think about Donna's research? I posted it to this list several months ago and forwarded her own posting yesterday. We are very much looking forward to some engagement from you. Please don't gnore the teachers' work that is forwarded to this list by me. It upsets a lot of people whenever you do that. I hope everyone noticed how Donna has developed her ideas in her KEEP snapshot - and as for a passion for practitioner enquiry! Well - I hope you'll agree her enthusiasm just shines out! Please ask Donna to write to me directly and I will try to find the time to respond. Before we drift into another phase of a seminar please can you address my comment yesterday? I honestly feel that the review process was flawed and we should end the seminar you ran. I think you have communicated clearly your own feelings. I'll be participating in the educational conversations with those who want to, following Pete's excellent suggestion. It's my opinon based on points I raised yesterday - simply ignoring what I write underlines the weakness of the so-called 'inclusional practice' for the good of humanity that was promoted. I have thoroughly enjoying following the links to the work you posted during the seminar - have any of the research accounts changed since we looked last time? Branko's work is superb! It's our responses to the archive that are developing and changing. Pete has done his best in very difficult circumstances - it certainly isn't any reflection on his talents that the data he has worked on has been partial. Can we start a seminar by teachers now? Lots of opportunities for you to do this. I would like to learn more about Marie's work at NACE and I'll ask teachers at Bitterne Park (see http://www.TeacherResearch.net ) to join. Is there a school teacher who can lead the seminar? You must know lots.