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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear fellow list members I'm working on the 1307 canonization process of St THomas Cantilupe, bishop of Hereford, and am struck by the way in which the Franciscan 'voice' on T's miracles seems to differ from that of other religious orders. While other witnesses agree that members of their order and the general public recognize T as a saint and believe that God works miracles for him, the Franciscans tend to make a point of stating that the people believe this, but members of the order do not readily believe in miracles unless they themselves have seen them. The Franciscans are also the only witnesses who stress the need to beware of faked miracles, giving some wonderful examples of these. There may well be political reasons for the Franciscan attitude, since T. died in the course of pursuing an appeal against a Franciscan archbishop of Canterbury. But it seems to me that there is more to it than that -- that the Franciscans thought about miracles and their in a somewhat different way from members of other orders. I wonder if any of you know anything about this or can point me to where in all the hundreds of books on the Franciscan tradition I might look to follow it up. best wishes Sue -- Susan J. Ridyard Chair, Department of History Director, Sewanee Medieval Colloquium The University of the South 735 University Ave Sewanee TN 37383 USA ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html