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David Thanks for the tip about looking at their subscription model. I didn't venture into this area yesterday! I can join and it will only cost me $60 a year! Melanie >>> David McMenemy <[log in to unmask]> 08/11/06 11:47 am >>> A great deal of the waste in the public sector is because of contracts with private companies for major IT infrastructure projects and their spiralling costs. The NHS and the military have been significant victims of this "business acumen" you speak of recently. I do agree with you that ALA is an organisation we should attempt to copy where we can, however. Their subscription model alone is an interesting one to compare to CILIP's. Cheers David _____ From: Frances Hendrix [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 11 August 2006 11:45 To: David McMenemy; [log in to unmask] Subject: RE: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's new business model I didn't actually say 'private sector', but commercial, and the review Group is supposed to be looking at a new business model. In the commercial world the business model has to be a successful one for the business to succeed, and we cannot go on acting as if we have a right to be here, and we can look only internally., and any way I would pick up good ideas from anywhere I could find them.(see the reference to the ALA), I am not advocating private-public partnerships, but if we are to succeed we need to take a leaf out of other successful models, and they are not going to come from a small group of people with no, or very little real business acumen. This is what is wrong with so much that happens in a local authority where the waste is appalling, and places like the NHS etc.We are now in the real world where people make choices and feel no real compulsion to be a member of Cilip, there has to be an offer they cant afford to refuse. The core ethical values are fine for debating the core philosophy of the profession, but are not the prime expertise required to look at anew business model. more of the same is not what will carry this profession and Cilip into the remainder of this century. Also I didn't say they (The private sector, words I did not use), know best, as we have to look at what doesn't work as well as what does. f _____ From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David McMenemy Sent: 11 August 2006 11:27 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's new business model CILIP is not a commercial organisation, Frances. The creep creep creep of private sector ideas into information and library provision is one of the potential dangers to its longevity. Personally speaking I'm sick of hearing about how the private sector shows the public sector the way. It's a mantra built on political expediency and nothing else. The money this current government has wasted on public-private partnerships has been nothing short of a disgrace. Pick up a copy of Private Eye for some eye opening material you'll never read in the newspapers. Your ideas to include more young librarians is a good one, but don't throw out the old librarians who have the core ethical values instilled in them that seem to have become lost a little as the profession has moved on. What the review needs is librarians from all levels, not just the Heads of Service and that level, not just those identified as "future leaders" but the silent majority who work away day to day providing the services we all take for granted. By all means look at other successful professional bodies to see what we can learn from them for CILIP's future, but can we have less of the "private sector" knows best nonsense. The review should be about securing CILIP not only in body but in mind and soul. Cheers David _____ From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frances Hendrix Sent: 11 August 2006 11:21 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's new business model I couldn't agree more, and was dismayed when I read it here is an organisation, in crisis, losing and not attracting and not getting the support of members, and it has an internal group (with little business/commercial experience), looking at its own navel I would also have thought that to some extent this review should also tie in with what the Governance Review findings are? and where is the Head of Enterprise, surely he needs to be on this group? The world has changed dramatically, and what people want from an organisation and how they get it, and how it is promoted and marketed, is entirely different now than even 4 years ago. Today is all about free/speedy/value added/easy/immediate, Cilip cant assume they know it all or can do it all from an internal review. Why not talk to some of the new librarians who have recently been featured via Clore and the top 10, what do they expect and want? Also what are the group regulating? The profession has changed and who gets employed in it has changed. We need to widen our reference points and look at many other types of organisations that are both struggling and succeeding., e.g. The AA and the RAC, the Institute of Directors etc. But above all talk to some new young librarians, whether they are professional librarians or not. I do so much agree that we need some out of the box thinking, but people who have lived and worked out of the box. rather than council going into break out groups, there needs to be a commercially experienced facilitator to put some ideas forward and to rattle the box! Thanks Chris, well said, but is anyone listening!?(and why in August when there is so little happening and most on holiday, maybe this is why)? f _____ From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Armstrong Sent: 11 August 2006 10:41 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Opinions needed - Gazette report: Good progress on CILIP's new business model CILIP New Business Model Working Group I was disappointed to find (according to the report in Gazette 11-24 August, page 3) that in their discussions to identify CILIP's core functions there appears to have been little or no consideration of possibilities, but only an agreement on the status quo - Regulate the LIS profession; Support LIS professional development; Provide advocacy. Shouldn't such an important working group, working in a time of crisis for CILIP, have thought 'outside the box' - considered new and exciting functions, which could both attract and retain members? I do not think members want a reaffirmation of more of the same in the new business model - the Terms of Reference make it clear that the model should generate income, not allow CILIP to carry on as it is. If you agree with this statement, please make it known via this list or by emailing CILIP ([log in to unmask]) directly "For attention of the New Business Model Working Group" Chris Armstrong National Councillor (CILIP) e. [log in to unmask] Information Automation Limited e. [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________