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Hallo Eugenia

This is the sort of context I was thinking of - the basic model of Aristotle's "Politics" though of course not exclusively. I say basic because I am not advocating large parts of that (the kind of property slaves are etc!) But I do find the basic model of political interaction useful - the idea of citizenship; and the dialogue of the personal and the public: and politics contextualised in ethics

I think your idea of the vima is useful.

L



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eugenia Tzirtzilaki 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [WDL] FW: Pew Internet Bloggers Report


  blogging to me is like a "vima" - that spot at the markets of ancient greece, where someone could step on & start talking. or sthg like the spots in the jewish markets, where prophets stood & prieched.  it is simply a place where one CAN be seem. Maybe sb looks, or nobody does. but you are "out there for people to see", should they wish to do so. in this way, i do not think it is such a special social phenomenon - only the vehicle is different. people have always been doing that - standing somewhere (choosing a still point) and speaking to others, who are moving (surfing), wishing to stop them, make them listen. it is an age-long social phenomenon. 

  now, re the content, yes, it is a false division- political & personal. what can be more political than personal? what is politics ? let's re-define that. Poli is the City. Political is that which is relevant to it, comes from, or speaks of it (it=the city). and so, how can bloggers be non-political? how can they not be informed by and affect in turn the life & workings of a city. and in this case, the digital age, the city is the one big digital landscape of virtual geography = access & time. Anyone who can access the web at this period of time is a citizen of this city. and this city has its prophets and scapegoats, its priecers and ambitious leaders, its poets and its egomaniac orators.... 

  its only natural :  ) 

  xxeugenia


  On 7/20/06, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask] > wrote: 
    I have organised many performance events and run a number of small presses; 
    and, based on that, and other's experience related to me, I'd say it is much
    easier to get contributions from men than from women - maybe I am too
    alphaish... I aim for zeddish when I remember

    Generally i.e . there are many exceptions / variations - generally men seem
    to me more likely to be up for it than women. Maybe the lessy pushing and
    competitive possibilities of blogging speaks to this...
    ?????????????????????? 

    Seems to me that blogging permits both "this is what I think and you should
    all listen" AND "well it's there if you are really interested

    I set up a blog somewhere and then forgot where. Then someone suggested I 
    join myspace and that gave me a blog. As I remember all I have posted is
    _testing_

    I can't think of anything to write there that would interesting to anyone
    else

    L

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Mark R Hancock" <[log in to unmask]>
    To: <[log in to unmask] >
    Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:03 AM
    Subject: Re: [WDL] FW: Pew Internet Bloggers Report


    Interesting report!

    At the risk of seeming to ignore some of the more interesting 'deeper'
    facts, I'd say that the report tells us what most 
    of us who blog already knew! We write for small audiences or perhaps even
    ourselves. Sharing our personal
    experiences. could to my mind, actually mean our technical or 'cultural'
    knowledge, if we're the sort of people who 
    spend most of our time thinking about things such as film or robots or even
    blogging, or hell, even making cheese
    sandwiches!

    Interesting that blogging is almost 50 50 for male and female bloggers.
    Given that mainstream media perception of 
    blogging is generally narcissistic, you'd assume that it would fit well into
    the alpha-male 'this is what I think and you
    should all listen' type of social software (ignoring comments facilities for
    now) But this isn't the case, I guess? 

    I'm interested to know what other people might feel the role or function of
    blogging is in general for us, either as
    social beings or indiviiduals? But maybe that's a really broad question?

    M


    Mark R Hancock
    MemeCortex.net


    -------Original Message-------
    From: Sue Thomas <[log in to unmask]>
    Subject: [WDL] FW: Pew Internet Bloggers Report
    Sent: 20 Jul '06 09:41

    The Pew Internet Project today releases a new report on Bloggers, available
    from: http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/186/report_display.asp .
    The press release is pasted in below.

    _____________________________

    Blogging is bringing new voices to the online world

    Most bloggers focus on personal experiences, not politics

    Washington, DC (July 19, 2006) - The ease and appeal of blogging is 
    inspiring a new group of writers and creators to share their voices with
    the
    world.

    A new, national phone survey of bloggers finds that most are focused on
    describing their personal experiences to a relatively small audience of 
    readers and that only a small proportion focus their coverage on politics,
    media, government, or technology.

    Related surveys by the Pew Internet & American Life Project found that the
    blog population has grown to about 12 million American adults, or about 8% 
    of adult internet users and that the number of blog readers has jumped to
    57
    million American adults, or 39% of the online population.

    These are some of the key findings in a new report issued by the Pew 
    Internet Project titled "Bloggers":

    * 54% of bloggers say that they have never published their writing or media
    creations anywhere else; 44% say they have published elsewhere.
    * 54% of bloggers are under the age of 30. 
    * Women and men have statistical parity in the blogosphere, with women
    representing 46% of bloggers and men 54%.
    * 76% of bloggers say a reason they blog is to document their personal
    experiences and share them with others. 
    * 64% of bloggers say a reason they blog is to share practical knowledge or
    skills with others.
    * When asked to choose one main subject, 37% of bloggers say that the
    primary topic of their blog is "my life and experiences." 
    * Other topics ran distantly behind: 11% of bloggers focus on politics and
    government; 7% focus on entertainment; 6% focus on sports; 5% focus on
    general news and current events; 5% focus on business; 4% on technology; 2% 
    on religion, spirituality or faith; and additional smaller groups who focus
    on a specific hobby, a health problem or illness, or other topics.

    The report, written by Senior Research Specialist Amanda Lenhart and 
    Associate Director Susannah Fox, says that bloggers are avid consumers and
    creators of online content. They are also heavy users of the internet in
    general. Forty-four percent of bloggers have taken material they find 
    online
    - like songs, text, or images - and remixed it into their own artistic
    creation. By comparison, just 18% of all internet users have done this. A
    whopping 77% of bloggers have shared something online that they created 
    themselves, like their own artwork, photos, stories, or videos. By
    comparison, 26% of internet users have done this.

    "Blogs are as individual as the people who keep them, but this survey shows
    that most bloggers are primarily interested in creative, personal 
    expression," said Lenhart. "Blogs make it easy to document individual
    experiences, share practical knowledge, or just keep in touch with friends
    and family."

    The Pew Internet & American Life Project deployed two strategies to 
    interview bloggers. First, bloggers were identified in random-digit dial
    surveys about internet use. These respondents were called back for an
    in-depth survey between July 2005 and February 2006, for a final yield of 
    233 bloggers. Second, additional random-digit surveys were fielded between
    November 2005 and April 2006 to capture an up-to-date estimate of the
    percentage of internet users who are currently blogging. These large-scale 
    telephone surveys yielded a sample of 7,012 adults, which included 4,753
    internet users, 8% of whom are bloggers.

    "Much of the public and press attention to bloggers has focused on the
    small
    number of high-traffic, A-list bloggers," said Fox. "By asking a wide range 
    of bloggers what they do and why they do it, we have found a different kind
    of story about the power of the internet to encourage creativity and
    community among all kinds of internet users."

    Some additional data points from the Bloggers report: 

    * 87% of bloggers allow comments on their blog.
    * 72% of bloggers post photos to their blog.
    * 55% of bloggers blog under a pseudonym.
    * 41% of bloggers say they have a blogroll or friends list on their blog. 
    * 8% of bloggers earn money on their blog.


    The Pew Internet & American Life Project has created an online version of
    the Blogger Callback telephone survey and invites participation from the
    general public. The resulting answers will not be a representative sample, 
    but the online survey will give observers a chance to see the questions in
    context and to comment on some specific aspects of blogging. The survey is
    online at the following address: http://www.psra.com/PewBloggerSurvey.html

    About the Pew Internet & American Life Project: The Pew Internet Project
    produces reports that explore the social impact of the internet. Support
    for
    the non-profit Pew Internet Project is provided by The Pew Charitable 
    Trusts. The Project is an initiative of the Pew Research Center. The
    Project's Web site: http://www.pewinternet.org

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