This is very interesting…is this
figure commonly misidentified then? The illustration I originally saw was in The British Library guide to manuscript illumination
: history and techniques / Christopher De Hamel and the Web page
illustration repeated that. That seems a rather egregious error from the BL. Also,
the possibility of the figure being Carmelite occurred to me, but that habit
looked dead black to me; but I suppose it’s another lesson in the
unreliability of reproducing color.
best,
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John, your man is not Vincent of Beauvais, but Thomas Netter of Walden (ca.
1375-1430), who is wearing a Carmelite habit because he is a Carmelite. The
very fetching colour scheme is more or less the reverse of the Dominican, brown
habit and white cloak (hence "Whitefriars" in
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Helen Brown wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> It looks rather like a modern Trappist habit - except that Trappists as
such
> didn't exist then, so some sort of Cistercian, I suppose. And Trappists
> don't have the white capuce thingy, afaik. How odd.
>
> Helen Brown
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> Quoting John Wickstrom <[log in to unmask]>:
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>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>> Dear Listmembers,
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>> http://www.kzoo.edu/history/Wickstrom/vincent.jpg
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>> The URL above goes to a supposed illustration of Vincent of Beauvais
(BL
>> Royal MS. 14.E.1, 15th c) I ran across browsing a book on
>> illuminations. Vincent, as is well-known, was a Dominican friar. Yet
>> this is in no way a Dominican habit. Indeed, I don't know what
religious
>> order has this sort of habit. It is as if the proper colors were
>> completely reversed. My experience is that at least later medieval MSS
>> are careful about such details. Any speculations about this strange
garb
>> for an OP?
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>> best,
>>
>> jbw
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>> John B. Wickstrom
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