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Christopher, thanks for these insights. As long as you're at it, since I haven't seen the actual MS, any idea what the medium is (aside from pen and ink?). Anybody?
thanks
John 

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> Subject: Re: [M-R] Saint Benedict as priest
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> From: John Wickstrom <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> >The MS is actually from Troyes, Bib. mun. 2273.
> 
> well, John that's very Quaint, "Bib. mun."
> 
> what you mean to say is "Médiathèque de l'Agglomération Troyenne".
> 
> which *sounds* much morebetter, just rolling off the tongue.
> 
> "Bibl. mun." is *SO* Vigntième siècle.
> 
> >It is, however, a Parisian MS, done at St. Maur-des-Fossés about 1100. Its
> important contents is an illustrated Life of St. Maurus, the disciple of St.
> Benedict. (There are only two that I know of; the other being the famous Vat
> lat 1202 from Monte Cassino c 1070.)
> 
> 
> >2273 was very nicely released on a CD by the Bnf. about a year ago.
> 
> a description of the CD is here, half way down the page:
> 
> http://www.bm-troyes.fr/bmtroyes/_/publications/d%C3%A9couvrir_bibli.asp
> 
> the price is certainly right; i've yet to find the ordering information,
> however.
> 
> it seems that a great many leaves are available on-line via the Ministre de
> Kulture's "Enluminures" site:
> 
> http://www.culture.gouv.fr/documentation/enlumine/fr/BM/troyes_481-01.htm
> 
> and subsequent pages.
> 
> (which site, btw, is a great resource, for mss. from regional French
> libraries.)
> 
> >"http://www.kzoo.edu/history/Wickstrom/bene2.jpg"http://www.kzoo.edu/history/Wickstr
> om/bene2.jpg
> 
> 
> the "horseshoe" arches which trouble Carlos *might* be reflections of an
> Italian model, i suppose.
> 
> i don't see any oriental "cupolas", however --looks like pretty
> straightforward western romanesque, with the clergy in one part of a building
> with a crossing(?) tower and two apsidial chapels;
> 
> and the seculares (Maur's clarisssimo senatorum generic kinsmen/women?) in
> another part of the building (perhaps the narthex of the church --i'm
> presuming that the high cross of the roof would be placed on the pinnacle of
> the west facade).
> 
> as for the figure with the crozier, i assume that you have identified him as
> Benedict because of the text --though bishops have croziers too.
> 
> but this guy is tonsured and surrounded by tonsured fellows, some in brown,
> some in green livery, and he is investing (?) the kneeling figure (Maur?) with
> a green habit (novice's ???).
> 
> the modest brown habit of the fellow holding the green garment would seem to
> eliminate the possibility that he is Benedict (as in MG's construction), seems
> to me.
> 
> the distinguished looking, kneeling secular fellow to the right of Maur(?) i
> take to be his father or close kinsman; the other secular figures, male and
> female, i take to be the extened family, come to witness the event of Maur
> being monked.
> 
> 
> judging from this illumination and the other ones i've seen on the Enluminures
> site, i'd say that your artist is a fairly Capable story teller, Competent in
> his handling of compositional, architectural, facial and other details,
> Consistent in the Realisations of his visionary images;
> 
> however, his ability to Clearly envision the Complexities of drapery patterns
> is certainly not particularly good --these are hopelessly "muddy", more often
> than not.
> 
> cf. the Conceptual Confusion evident in the fold structure of the figure in
> purple in the left hand group of monks on fol. 69v here:
> 
> http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/savimage/enlumine/irht7/IRHT_109816-p.jpg
> 
> or here:
> 
> http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/savimage/enlumine/irht7/IRHT_109837-p.jpg
> 
> or here:
> 
> http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/savimage/enlumine/irht7/IRHT_109830-p.jpg
> 
> http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/savimage/enlumine/irht7/IRHT_109835-p.jpg
> 
> http://expositions.bnf.fr/bestiaire/images/3/04_01_tro.jpg (woman saint in the
> lower left)
> 
> etc.
> 
> 
> as an aside, note the later defacement to the DIABOLVS figure here:
> 
> http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/savimage/enlumine/irht7/IRHT_109822-p.jpg
> 
> 
> very Heavy Ju-Ju, in those Demoniac images.
> 
> one wonders when the defacement was done.
> 
> interesting ms., John.
> 
> thanks for the HeadsUp on the CD.
> 
> hit us with some more problems.
> 
> best,
> 
> c
> 
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