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It's anything but supportive to keep quiet when you believe that a decision is wrong. We should be able to have a lively debate on an issue, without people getting all upset every time their standpoint is challenged - especially those people who have put themselves forward for office. Diana Nutting [ -----Original Message----- From: Jardine, Heather [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 12 July 2006 09:56 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Closure of this list. Doesn't this rather prove Thomas Clark's point? I (one of the silent majority) think that lis-cilip could be a very good thing and in principle would support its continuation, but the ceaseless tit-for-tat bickering which tends to characterise it has several times driven me nearly to the point of unsubscribing and this last round may nudge me over the edge. We don't live on mountain-tops but we do have jobs to do and I don't have time for this rudeness. For goodness sake can we not concentrate on issues which buttress rather than belittle the profession, and support our colleagues rather than snipe at them? Heather Jardine -----Original Message----- From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dobson, Malcolm Sent: 12 July 2006 09:42 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Closure of this list. Isn't it wonderful when someone deigns to stoop down from his mountain-top & instruct us lesser folk on how useless our idle chatter is. One always feels so grateful & awe-struck. Perhaps all those people he criticises for not joining in realised how useless their contributions might be, & held back for fear of being told off? Malcolm Dobson -----Original Message----- From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Clark,Thomas Sent: 12 July 2006 09:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Closure of this list. I don't doubt that this list fulfils a certain purpose and should be retained, but who could read the last week or so of discussion on LIS-CILIP without agreeing that there is a definite need for something better, some form of moderated discussion which doesn't lie largely dormant for days and weeks before erupting with endless tail-chasing rounds of oh-yes-he-did-oh-no-he-didn't arguments whenever threatened with closure? With the exception of a few contributions, most of this debate has been entirely dispensable and/or redundant, and tends rather to buttress CILIP's reasons for wanting to get rid of it than demolish them. 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