medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Have you looked at Josef Jungmann's historical treatise on the Mass with that very title? Missarum sollemnia; eine genetische Erklärung der römischen Messe Jungmann, Josef A. (Josef Andreas), 1889-1975. Mark Jump to call number/location/availability Author: Jungmann, Josef A. (Josef Andreas), 1889-1975. Title: Missarum sollemnia; eine genetische Erklärung der römischen Messe. Edition: 3., verb. Aufl. Imprint: Wien, Herder, 1952. Physical Description: 2 v. 23 cm. Notes: Bibliography: v. 1, p. [xv]-xxiii. Contents: 1. Bd. Messe im Wandel der Jahrhunderte. Messe und kirchliche Gemeinschaft. Vormesse.--2. Bd. Opfermesse. Subject (LC): Catholic Church. Missal. Subject (LC): Mass. Subject (LC): Lord's Supper (Liturgy) If you don't have immediate access to a copy, I can check for you tonight. GHB >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture >What is the exact meaning of "missarum >solemnia"? Does this phrase imply a Mass with >deacon and subdeacon, or a sung Mass, or a Mass >in a public church? Does it imply a distinction >from a simple "missa", or are both generic >terms? Does the vocabulary undergo a change of >meaning from, say, the 12th century to the 14th? >Is there a literature on the subject? > >I'm looking at Blaise, Vocabulaire latin des >principaux thèmes liturgiques, no. 239: he >suggests no distinction between the names but >the few examples are all very early (before >Gregory the Great) and I'm interested rather in >the 13th century. > >I notice a text from the Summa theologiae which >seems to suggest that "missarum solemnia" >indicates a public Mass, but is that what is >intended and is it the common meaning of the >phrase? I would be very grateful for any >suggestions. > >IIIª q. 83 a. 5 ad 12: Ad duodecimum dicendum >quod in solemni celebratione Missae plures >debent adesse. Unde Soter Papa dicit, ut habetur >de Consecr., dist. I, hoc quoque statutum est, >ut nullus presbyterorum Missarum solemnia >celebrare praesumat, nisi, duobus praesentibus >sibique respondentibus, ipse tertius habeatur, >quia, cum pluraliter ab eo dicitur, dominus >vobiscum, et illud in secretis, orate pro me, >apertissime convenit ut ipsi respondeatur >salutationi. Unde et, ad maiorem solemnitatem, >ibidem statutum legitur quod episcopus cum >pluribus Missarum solemnia peragat. In Missis >tamen privatis sufficit unum habere ministrum, >qui gerit personam totius populi Catholici, ex >cuius persona sacerdoti pluraliter respondet. >---------- >Paul Chandler, O.Carm. | Carmelite Library >214 Richardson Street | Middle Park Vic 3206 | Australia >tel: (03) 9682 8553 | fax: (03) 9699 1944 | ><mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask] >| ><http://www.carmelitelibrary.org>www.carmelitelibrary.org >********************************************************************** >To join the list, send the message: join >medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: >[log in to unmask] To send a message to the >list, address it to: >[log in to unmask] To leave the >list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >to: [log in to unmask] In order to report >problems or to contact the list's owners, write >to: [log in to unmask] For >further information, visit our web site: >http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html -- George Hardin Brown, Professor of English Emeritus Department of English, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305-2087 Home: 451 Adobe Place, Palo Alto, CA 94306-4501 Phones: Mobile: 650-269-9898; Fax: 650-725-0755; Home: 650-852-1231 ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html