> This rings a vague bell, but I can't remember what's too old with > 1.3.1. How did it complain? Not sure what you meant by "it". Trying to configure openjade the response is: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/openjade-1.3.2 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... no checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking location of OpenSP include files... checking for /usr/local/openjade-1.3.2/include/OpenSP... no checking for /usr/local/include/OpenSP... no checking for /usr/include/OpenSP... no configure: error: "OpenSP include files do not exist" Not sure if that's the correct ./configure command line. I couldn't find any installation instructions at Sourceforge. If you meant the 1.3.1 not being adequate, here's what configure said: According to ./configure, this component cannot be built: Your openjade is version 1 3 1 ; need 1.3.2 or better Malcolm