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>but there are many such battlefields, not all gender-based.... Agreed - & history as violence is always intersecting other fields - I think at least one of Greer's apparent directions in her arguments on poetry does come parallel with specific expository writings by Howe, and by writers on Howe - >(a poet I admire the hell out of) Me too - I go back to her books a lot - and it seems as i read, (I'm going to try hard to get this close) that the rhetoric of her writing is both a rhetoric of differing planes, each containing irrecusable shards & irreconcilable discourses, but also that the work fluctuates so at any reading moment, the continuously intersecting planes could also all reduce to a single intensity, the sentence at hand... Edmund