Granularity? see http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+granularity&btnG=Google+Search&meta= (shake the jar and hear the granules?...) Basically, how far down into the detail d'you want to go? Catchment area? http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+catchment+area&btnG=Search&meta= (ignore the water - it's a geography thang!...) But the one I like best on Catchment Areas for libraries I shamelessy 'borrow; from Peter Marshall of Bexley Libraries. a) The catchment area of library A is that area from which users habitually travel to visit library A OR: b) The catchment area of library A is that area from which more users travel to visit library A than library B, Library C, etc. Says it all - and they work! Regards JU - BSc (Geography), Dip Lib - Foot in both camps! John Usher ICT Development Manager Islington Library & Cultural Services Customer Focus Islington Council Central Library 2 Fieldway Crescent LONDON N5 1PF tel: 020 7527 6920 mobile: 07929 009686 fax: 020 7527 6926 email: mailto:[log in to unmask] website: www.islington.gov.uk/libraries -----Original Message----- From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Paul Forrest Sent: 12 May 2006 00:13 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [LIS-PUB-LIBS] Potenial Issues for a library Granularity? Anything to do with coffee...please define for us catchment-area (ahem) neophytes... Thanks Paul Forrest ----Original Message Follows---- From: Michael Clarke <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Potenial Issues for a library Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:26:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from ictmailer1.itd.rl.ac.uk ([130.246.192.56]) by bay0-mc3-f15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 9 May 2006 20:27:35 -0700 Received: from LISTSERV.JISCMAIL.AC.UK (jiscmail.ac.uk) by ictmailer1.itd.rl.ac.uk (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 10 May 2006 4:27:33 +0100 Received: by JISCMAIL.AC.UK (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.4) with spool id 73004241 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 10 May 2006 04:27:33 +0100 Received: from 130.246.192.53 by JISCMAIL.AC.UK (SMTPL release 1.0m) with TCP; Wed, 10 May 2006 04:27:32 +0100 Received: from netpop01.eng.net (netpop01.eng.net [213.130.146.171]) by fili.jiscmail.ac.uk (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4A3RSKD027975 for <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 10 May 2006 04:27:28 +0100 Received: from dsl82-163-59-8.as15444.net ([82.163.59.8] helo=m17011) by netpop01.eng.net with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <[log in to unmask]>) id 1FdOUk-0004w5-88; Tue, 09 May 2006 10:27:08 +0100 X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3BbpI/YE07UTLxxiTikUm1RUHuz0X8ik8= X-RAL-MFrom: <[log in to unmask]> X-RAL-Connect: <netpop01.eng.net [213.130.146.171]> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <[log in to unmask]> X-CCLRC-SPAM-report: -4.74 : BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Comments: To: "Usher, John" <[log in to unmask]> Comments: cc: "Chung, Steve" <[log in to unmask]>, "Doyle, Rosemary" <[log in to unmask]> Precedence: list Return-Path: [log in to unmask] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2006 03:27:35.0272 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE1EAE80:01C673E1] John thanks for your comments - this certainly illustrates the complexity. The LLDA/ALM project does not go this far - too much for a small scale, discrete piece of work, but we will raise the issue with MLA nationally to see if they will consider something more indepth. At best we can hope to identify the factors, issues and considerations at this stage. Potentially data could come from some, all or more than just those sources you mention. As to granularity (lovely word), I think it's got to be service point level. If you take business as a model, when people invest money in a shop or service in a local area, they often work up a clear model and business plan, including such issues as demographics, local transport nodes, parking, environmental issues etc. We should aspire to something similar - but a model that's tailored to the very specific nature of library business. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Usher, John [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 06 May 2006 16:07 To: Michael Clarke; [log in to unmask] Cc: Chung, Steve; Doyle, Rosemary Subject: RE: [LIS-PUB-LIBS] Potenial Issues for a library Michael, But first define the catchment area, especially in an area like London, with significant cross-border activity. Local authority and school boundaries are pre-defined - library catchment areas are self-defined by users, will be affected by things such as transport routes and availability), and may vary for each of the 'Client Groups' (if such things actually exist - they are an artificial construct) across space - and time! *And* then apply the data for the users, actual or potential, in the catchment area - and the data is from where? From LMS systems? from 'Community Profiling', carried out by Library staff? from surveys? from Census data? from (expensive) commercial data like Acorn or Mosaic? And at what level of granularity? London? sub-regional? Borough? individual library? Can we hope that the LLDA/ALM research will begin to address this, before we begin to apply appropriate formulae to the data? Regards JU John Usher ICT Development Manager Islington Library & Cultural Services 020 7527 6920 -----Original Message----- From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries on behalf of Michael Clarke Sent: Thu 20/04/2006 16:16 To: [log in to unmask] Cc: Subject: Re: [LIS-PUB-LIBS] Potenial Issues for a library Gary certainly this is an issue that we at London Libraries Development Agency are interested in. As well as examining potential based on catchment and population (your formulae look very useful and well thought out) I would be interested in 'added value' as well. This would mean factoring in: - comparative stock spend and stock turnover (ie quality of stock available) - local demographics such as ethnicity, population density and churn, educational attainment and poverty - library profile within local authority all of which may affect usage. We could start to get to a fair assessment of an individual library, or library authority's performance against what can realistically be expected - the kind of added value approach that has been recognised in measuring school performance for some years now. We'd then be able to compare like with like, so that for example it might be fairer to compare London Borough X with one of the metropolitan boroughs in terms of communities served and positioning/budgets, rather than always assuming that other London boroughs are the automatic comparitors. This will be a complex project. MLA London and LLDA are just in the process of completing what could be phase 1 - its working title is Library Facts - which attempts to get some consistency and read across in current available datasets from both within and outside the sector, but it's a long way short of added value indicators. We hope to interest MLA nationally in taking this further forward. regards Michael Clarke Director London Libraries Development Agency 35 St Martin's Street London WC2H 7HP T: 020 7641 5244 M: 07879 424828 F: 020 7641 5266 E: [log in to unmask] W: www.llda.org.uk Find out what's going on in London's libraries - www.londonlibraries.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of gary nugent Sent: 20 April 2006 11:38 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [LIS-PUB-LIBS] Potenial Issues for a library Dear list, I heard someone mention a while a go (but did not write it down) the idea of using a statistical formula for working out a library's your potential number of issues per year based on your borrowers. Does anybody use this or know the formulae and how valid it's use is? The context I was looking to use it in is compare our potential performance with actual, and looking in more depth when we are told we are underpeforming and we should increase issues by so many % What this means for stock use or how many new borrowers, increase use from existing borrowers the target demands. I can think of a number of variations on formula that would give you some interesting figures (but wonder how valid they were as a statistical measurement and tool) e.g. Active borrowers x loan limit x (weeks in year/loan period) = potential issues for year Active borrowers x average loans per user x (weeks in year/loan period) = potential issues for year Catchment area pop x average loans per user x (weeks in year/loan period) = potential issues for year Other factors to consider would be is it realistic figure given your lending stock? Adult/junior split % of stock out on loan at any one time to achieve this potential issues figure. Hope you can help Gary Nugent Senior Community Librarian Lincoln Central Library Free School Lane Lincoln LN2 1EZ Tel: 01522 510800 Fax: 01522 575011 Email:[log in to unmask] **************************************************************************** ************ This email and any files transmitted with it may contain information which is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is prohibited by law and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please note any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and delete it from your system. Email transmissions cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information can be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. 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