Colleagues whenever I read debates about the value (virtue?) of "e-learning" and "online pedagogies", I am reminded of the view of Socrates (according to Plato) on writing. In the Phaedrus, Socrates tells the story of the inventor-god Theuth showing the god Thamus his discovery of letter. Theuth replies "And in this instance, you who are the father of letters, from a paternal love of your own children have been led to attribute to them a quality which they cannot have; for this discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom without the reality." (find it at http://books.mirror.org/plato/phaedrus/) Hmm. regards Len -- - - - - - - - - - - Dr Leonard Holmes Principal Lecturer in Human Resource Management Luton Business School University of Luton tel. +44(0)158 734111 ext 5014 email: [log in to unmask] websites: www.re-skill.org.uk www.graduate-employability.org.uk www.odysseygroup.org.uk