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Yup, that's the way it goes, Alison, tho perhaps that particular argument is no longer productive in Australia. I suspect another one probably is. Or are there no divisions in Australia about what poetry's about? Is it really the peaceable kingdom? Does nobody care enough to disagree? Do all journals represent all manner of work? You know that's not the case in the UK , Ireland and the US. Actually, I'd be interested in hearing from Australians about the politics of the poetry world there. What are the fault lines? Mark At 12:24 AM 3/28/2006, you wrote: >On 28/3/06 12:31 PM, "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Meanwhile, to stand outside this particular fray is in > > itself a way of defining what one's about, I think. > >Doh! Whether I like it or not, I'm on a "side"! I don't buy that particular >argument. > >Maybe I'm of a different generation, Mark, a crucial 20 years or so. >Certainly of a different nationhood. This might make quite a difference in >how I approach those poets, who are both foreigners this side of the >Pacific. > >All best > >A > >Alison Croggon > >Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com >Editor, Masthead: http://masthead.net.au >Home page: http://alisoncroggon.com