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There is also a pretty new edition of the Agrippa, in English (sixteenth century translation) published in 2004 by Llewellyn, with interesting footnotes and additional material by Donald Tyson. Just in case you prefer that to going to an archive or special collections library and looking at the original thing. The ISBN is 0875428320. Johann Hasler International Centre for Music Studies University of Newcastle Upon Tyne (UK) ________________________________ De: Society for The Academic Study of Magic en nombre de Christopher I. Lehrich Enviado el: mié 29/03/2006 22:01 Asunto: Re: Golden Dawn questions I don't have "Liber Israfel" at hand, but I can tell you that Taphthartharath is one of several spirits whose names and signs are structured into the magic squares in Cornelius Agrippa, book 2. I do not know of any prior reference to this spirit, whose name is gibberish, so I rather doubt it has an Egyptian origin. GD members could have encountered this figure in Agrippa, but also in Francis Barrett's _The Magus; or, Celestial Intelligencer_ (1801), which includes at least some material borrowed from Trithemius as well. So I would suggest looking in Barrett for sources. Chris Lehrich Caroline Tully wrote: > Hello, does anyone know where the ciphers in the "cipher manuscript" > that the Golden Dawn was founded upon came from and does anyone know > where the Invocation to Thoth used in the Conjuration to Visible > Manifestation of the Spirit Taphthartharath performed by Florence > Farr, Alan Bennet, (and the other two participants) and which is now > used in Aleister Crowley's "Liber Israfel" , came from? Was it from an > ancient Egyptian source, or did the ritualists make it up? Was there a > record of the result of this ritual? > > And also, Al Billings, what is your study 'angle' regarding the Golden > Dawn again, can you remind me. Thanks. > > > ~Caroline. -- Christopher I. Lehrich Boston University