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Hello, does anyone know where the ciphers in the "cipher manuscript" that the Golden Dawn was founded upon came from and does anyone know where the Invocation to Thoth used in the Conjuration to Visible Manifestation of the Spirit Taphthartharath performed by Florence Farr, Alan Bennet, (and the other two participants) and which is now used in Aleister Crowley's "Liber Israfel" , came from? Was it from an ancient Egyptian source, or did the ritualists make it up? Was there a record of the result of this ritual? And also, Al Billings, what is your study 'angle' regarding the Golden Dawn again, can you remind me. Thanks. ~Caroline.