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Jacqueline yeah i remember that one - had wondered if the stone might be transposed to boscastle : ) although after the flood there might well be opposition to that. But I still think this is yet another, older stone - i seem to remember north yorkshire - and perhaps a churchyard location although maybe not a curse but a fence against 'witchcraft'? bb/93 mogg -----Original Message----- From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of jacqueline simpson Sent: 17 February 2006 15:24 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] English Folk Charms (verbal) Mogg-- Got it! The fuss was in early March 2005, and fully reported in UK press (e.g. Times 2nd March, Daily mail 3d with good photo, Guardian 8th, Telegraph 9th). The stone is a sculpture by Gordon Young in Tullie House Museum, Carlisle, inscribed with part of a curse against catttle thieves said to have been proclaimed by an Archbishop of Glasgow in 1525, and based ultimately on 'The curse of St Adalbert' which you can find in Book 12 chapter 18 of Reginald Scot's 'The Discoverie of Witchcraft' 1584. The stone carries 383 words of the original curse, which is about 1060 words long. Runes are *not* involved. Some people tried to get the town council to remove it, alleging it had caused defeats for the football team. The Council refused. There was a website (www.gaddgedlar.com/curse.htm) but I don't know if it's still around. Jacqueline --- Mogg Morgan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Jacqueline > > sounds really interesting - do you know if it has > the text of a 'runic'(?) > cursing spell from a stone, perhaps in a churchyard, > in north england > somewhere?? > That's a bit vague really i know - i caught the tail > end of that on the > radio > a month or two back but couldn't track it down at > the time?? > > mogg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On > Behalf Of jacqueline > simpson > Sent: 16 February 2006 23:57 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] English Folk Charms > (verbal) > > > Some while back I mentioned that there would be a > study of traditional English verbal charms published > soon. Well, it has arrived. It's Jonathan Roper, > "English Verbal Charms" (ISBN 951-41-0968-6), 241 > pages, pub. by Folklore Fellows Communications, > Academia Scientiarum Fennica. Obtainable from > Bookstore Tiedekirja, Kirkkokatu 14, Helsinki, > Finland. Email: [log in to unmask] > > Roper has assembled and analysed a database of over > 500 English traditional verbal folk charms from > Anglo-Saxon time to 20th century, and this book > gives > representative texts grouped into 45 types, and > discusses various aspects of the genre, and of the > practice of charming. > > There are two groupings: healing charms, mostly with > strong Christian elements; and love divinations and > other charms for non-healing purposes, which do not > show religious traits. > > It's the first comprehensive study of the English > material (it covers England only, not the rest of > Britain or other anglophone countries), and also > indicates some of the general European connections. > > May be of interest to some here. > > Jacqueline > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter > now. > http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry > ___________________________________________________________ Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry