In Trevor Rowley's 'The Welsh Border', I found a passage, translated from Nennius, that's new to me: 'In the district of Ergyng there is a tomb near the well which is called the Eye of Amr: and the name of the man who is buried in the tump was Amr. He was the son of Arthur the knight and he [the knight] slew him [the son] and buried him there.' (p. 73) (The quote continues with the fairly familiar folkloric assertion that the size of the tump varies each time anyone tries to measure it.) Rowley continues: 'The brook called Amyr is believed by some to be known as Gamber, and the eye, or source of the brook, is the round pool a few yards north of the building of the farmhouse known as Gamber Head Farm. From the pool the Gamber has its origin, and it is the boundary for half a mile between the parishes of Much Birch and Much Dewchurch. The tumulus in which Amyr the son of Arthur was buried was traditionally believed to be a place named Wormelow Tump, of which nothing now remains beyond the name.' Ergyng, he notes, is a part of Herefordshire that continued to be basically Welsh during the Anglo-Saxon period (later, Welsh-culture Herefordshire is known as Archenfield, from Ariconium). Is Amr is the name now usually spelt Emyr? This seems to mean 'ruler, king, lord', and so may be more generic than personal? Jonathan Sant's 'The Healing Wells of Herefordshire' notes the Eye of Amr under Much Birch. He links the well with Arthurian legend, somewhat vaguely, and identifies Amr with Mordred. The source in Nennius is hidden in the parenthetical 'some say'; but several point seem to go missing in this approach. A quick Google produced the basic information (hopefully accurate) that Nennius was writing in North Wales, probably around the start of the ninth century. Welsh nationalism was stirring, at a time when Danish raids on England were becoming seriously disruptive. {King Coenwulf of Mercia, father of St Kenelm, campaigned in north-eastern Wales between 816 and 821.} Whatever sources the writer drew on, they seem to have been a mix of what we would call history with legend. Nennius provides the earliest written record of Arthur, whose story has been endlessly embroidered ever since, including the Mordred strand. Rowley's quote is a very, very early literary record of a 'significant' well, in England or Wales, being linked to some kind of story - we can't tell how genuine - cf. Simon Schama's 'Landscape and Memory'. (I have to trust scholars for the 9th C dating, assuming that Amr isn't a later medieval addition.) Amr seems to belong to legend, or history-as-legend, rather than being a saint, or a simple land-holder. While this relates to a Welsh approach to labelling landscape features, I wonder if we shouldn't bear it in mind, and exercise caution in assuming that 'x's well', in an early text, must refer to an otherwise untraced saint. It also suggests a category of well regarded as 'significant' in local culture, maybe numinous, but not quite 'holy' in a spiritual sense. Janet and Colin Bord note in 'Sacred Waters' (p. 51) that the standard Welsh term for the source of a stream is 'llygad', otherwise 'eye'; thus Nennius is simply translating the word into Latin (oculus). Neither Rowley nor Sant explains this - perhaps they assume knowledge I didn't have. (The Bords have a plausible explanation of the dual meaning of the Welsh word, that such a water source was regarded as 'the eye of God'; is it then fanciful to refer to Emyr = ruler?) I can find little else about the Eye of Amr in what reference books I have, yet it seems highly significant because of its documented early date. Am I missing something? (Or is it regarded just as an attempt to explain the name 'Gamber' or an earlier version?) Christine B. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 14/01/2006