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Hmmm. Everyone seems to be getting in on this particular act... Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jeff Livesay" <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 2006 January 12 20.43.43 GMT > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? ANN - Fortran and C/C > ++ compilers and development tools for Intel-based Macs > > Dear Fortran / Apple User Community: > > Due to the many recent postings, we are pleased to share the > following information. > > Absoft is developing Fortran and C/C++ compilers & tool suites for > the new Intel-based Macs and is working with Intel to offer best-of- > breed compilers, debuggers, math & performance libraries, and other > development tools from both Absoft and Intel for Intel-based Macs > to be available in bundles from Absoft. > > The full announcement, made at MacWorld yesterday, is available at: > http://www.absoft.com/corporate/pressreleases/060111.html > > The products will be available in the first half of 2006. Absoft > is the primary point of contact for selling and supporting these > solutions. > > Product details and introductory commercial SRPs are available at: > http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/intelfortrancbundle_osx.html > > Academic and government discounts will be available. > > Free trial beta licenses may be obtained by applying to Absoft > online at: http://www.absoft.com/freetrialbeta.html > > For inquiries, please contact [log in to unmask] > > Thank you for your loyalty as Fortran customers on Apple and your > patience as we work to rapidly make these tools available to you. > > Jeff Livesay > Chief Operating Officer > Absoft Corporation > > Leading Fortran/C/C++ Compilers, Debuggers & Development > Tools for more than 26 Years > > 2781 Bond Street > Rochester Hills, MI 48309 USA > (248) 853-0050 - voice > (248) 853 0108 - fax > www.absoft.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:02:02 -0500 > From: Fred Dahlgren <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? > To: Apple Scitech Mailing List <[log in to unmask]> > Cc: [log in to unmask] > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > FWIW, apparently Absoft will be offering a Fortran/C/C++ bundle for > the new Intel Macs: > > http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/intelfortrancbundle_osx.html > > Availability is listed as 2Q06 and no academic price breaks or > upgrade pricing are listed. > > The stated bundle cost is pricey at $1449 although Fortran alone is > $549 (which is a bit less > than Intel is asking for their Linux version). Hopefully the code > produced is binary compatible with GCC. > > -Fred > > On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Dallaire wrote: > > > From Intel : > > > > http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm > > > > Regards, > > > > PO > > ______________________________________ > > Pierre-Olivier Dallaire > > Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique > > Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ > > > > > > > > > > On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote: > > > >> > >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote: > >>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro? > >> > >> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a > >> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they > already > >> do for Linux. It's not free, but it's quite good; in our > company we > >> recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel Fortran for > >> our Linux builds. > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >> Fortran-dev mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/pierre- > >> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca > >> > >> This email sent to [log in to unmask] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > Fortran-dev mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/fdahlgre% > 40pppl.gov > > > > This email sent to [log in to unmask] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:28:54 -0700 > From: Joe Koski <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? > To: Fred Dahlgren <[log in to unmask]>, Apple Scitech Mailing List > <[log in to unmask]> > Cc: Fortran Developers List <[log in to unmask]> > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > A quick, related question: Is OS X for Intel Macs built with Intel C > ++/C or Apple g++/gcc? From the statement about gcc compatibility > below, I assume Apple will continue to use gcc, etc. Correct? > > Joe > > > on 1/11/06 2:02 PM, Fred Dahlgren at [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > FWIW, apparently Absoft will be offering a Fortran/C/C++ bundle for > > the new Intel Macs: > > > > http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/intelfortrancbundle_osx.html > > > > Availability is listed as 2Q06 and no academic price breaks or > upgrade > > pricing are listed. > > > > The stated bundle cost is pricey at $1449 although Fortran alone is > > $549 (which is a bit less > > than Intel is asking for their Linux version). Hopefully the code > > produced is binary compatible with GCC. > > > > -Fred > > > > On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Dallaire wrote: > > > >> From Intel : > >> > >> http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> PO > >> ______________________________________ > >> Pierre-Olivier Dallaire > >> Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique > >> Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote: > >>>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro? > >>> > >>> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a > >>> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they > >>> already do for Linux. It's not free, but it's quite good; in our > >>> company we recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel > >>> Fortran for our Linux builds. > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >>> Fortran-dev mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/pierre- > >>> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca > >>> > >>> This email sent to [log in to unmask] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >> Fortran-dev mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/fdahlgre% > 40pppl.go > >> v > >> > >> This email sent to [log in to unmask] > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > Fortran-dev mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/jkoski11% > 40comcast. > > net > > > > This email sent to [log in to unmask] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:51:42 -0800 > From: John Eidinger <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Fortran compiler for new macbook > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Several months ago, Absoft stated on their web site that they would > have a Mac-Intel fortran compiler. Their web site today was updated > to highlight Absoft Fortran version 10 for Mac-Intel to be > available 2Q06; beta available now. Prices range from $549 to $1449+. > > > On 1/11/06 12:02 PM, "[log in to unmask]" > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Send Fortran-dev mailing list submissions to > > [log in to unmask] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/fortran-dev > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [log in to unmask] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [log in to unmask] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Fortran-dev digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. fortran compiler for new macbook? (millard alexander) > > 2. Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? (Joe Koski) > > 3. Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? (Tom Pollard) > > 4. Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? (Pierre-Olivier > Dallaire) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:08:57 -0500 > > From: millard alexander <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: fortran compiler for new macbook? > > To: [log in to unmask], Apple Scitech Mailing List > > <[log in to unmask]> > > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro? > > > > --- > > millard alexander, distinguished university professor department of > > chemistry and biochemistry > > institute for physical science and technology university of > > maryland, college park, maryland, 20742-2021, usa > > tel: +1.301.405.1823 fax: +1.301.314.9121 > > web: www.chem.umd.edu/groups/alexander/index.html > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/private/fortran-dev/attachments/ > 2006011 > > 0/a24411 > > 68/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:16:31 -0700 > > From: Joe Koski <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? > > To: millard alexander <[log in to unmask]>, Fortran Developers List > > <[log in to unmask]>, Apple Scitech Mailing List > > <[log in to unmask]> > > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Millard, > > > > I would suggest looking at the discussion on http:// > hpc.sourceforge.net/. > > Also, be aware that there are some who say that there are no good > > choices for OS X 10.4. I suspect everyone9s waiting for Intel > Fortran to arrive. > > > > Joe > > > > > > on 1/10/06 2:08 PM, millard alexander at [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > >> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro? > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> > >> > >> millard alexander, distinguished university professor > >> > >> > >> department of chemistry and biochemistry > >> > >> > >> institute for physical science and technology > >> > >> > >> university of maryland, college park, maryland, 20742-2021, usa > >> > >> > >> tel: +1.301.405.1823 fax: +1.301.314.9121 > >> > >> > >> web: www.chem.umd.edu/groups/alexander/index.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >> Scitech mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/scitech/jkoski11% > 40comcast.net > >> > >> This email sent to [log in to unmask] > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/private/fortran-dev/attachments/ > 2006011 > > 0/3b537a > > 5f/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:19:47 -0500 > > From: Tom Pollard <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? > > To: millard alexander <[log in to unmask]> > > Cc: Apple Scitech Mailing List <[log in to unmask]>, > > [log in to unmask] > > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote: > >> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro? > > > > I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a > > version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they > already > > do for Linux. It's not free, but it's quite good; in our company we > > recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel Fortran for > > our Linux builds. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:24:25 -0500 > > From: Pierre-Olivier Dallaire <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Cc: Apple Scitech Mailing List <[log in to unmask]> > > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > > > From Intel : > > > > http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm > > > > Regards, > > > > PO > > ______________________________________ > > Pierre-Olivier Dallaire > > Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique > > Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ > > > > > > > > > > On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote: > > > >> > >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote: > >>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro? > >> > >> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a > >> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they > already > >> do for Linux. It's not free, but it's quite good; in our > company we > >> recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel Fortran for > >> our Linux builds. > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >> Fortran-dev mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/pierre- > >> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca > >> > >> This email sent to [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fortran-dev mailing list > > [log in to unmask] > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/fortran-dev > > > > End of Fortran-dev Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5 > > ***************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:00:11 -0500 > From: Fred Dahlgren <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? > To: Joe Koski <[log in to unmask]> > Cc: [log in to unmask] > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Just a guess but since the Intel compilers for MacOSX are still in > beta, and Apple has been building OSX for Intel for several years > now, GCC is almost certainly the one they used (and will probably > continue to use). It's not clear whether the Intel/Absoft compilers > will be capable of building fat binaries or could even be > integrated into Xcode. > > They will probably only produce Intel native code. > What's interesting is the emphasis Absoft is putting on 64-bit > compatibility when the current Macintels are all 32-bit Yonah-based > cpus. One might speculate on the next desktop from Apple: a 64-bit > Yonah? Conroe? Xeon? Itanium? Merom? > > It would be rather ironic if Apples' 64-bit OS can't be used > because Intel can't deliver a low cost 64-bit dual core cpu. > > I don't think S.J. mentioned 64-bit once in his keynote yesterday.... > > -Fred > > On Jan 11, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Joe Koski wrote: > > > A quick, related question: Is OS X for Intel Macs built with Intel > > C++/C or > > Apple g++/gcc? From the statement about gcc compatibility below, I > > assume Apple will continue to use gcc, etc. Correct? > > > > Joe > > > > > > on 1/11/06 2:02 PM, Fred Dahlgren at [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > >> FWIW, apparently Absoft will be offering a Fortran/C/C++ bundle for > >> the new Intel Macs: > >> > >> http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/ > intelfortrancbundle_osx.html > >> > >> Availability is listed as 2Q06 and no academic price breaks or > >> upgrade pricing are listed. > >> > >> The stated bundle cost is pricey at $1449 although Fortran alone is > >> $549 (which is a bit less > >> than Intel is asking for their Linux version). Hopefully the code > >> produced is binary compatible with GCC. > >> > >> -Fred > >> > >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Dallaire wrote: > >> > >>> From Intel : > >>> > >>> http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> PO > >>> ______________________________________ > >>> Pierre-Olivier Dallaire > >>> Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique > >>> Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote: > >>>>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro? > >>>> > >>>> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a > >>>> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they > >>>> already do for Linux. It's not free, but it's quite good; in our > >>>> company we recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to > Intel > >>>> Fortran for our Linux builds. > >>>> > >>>> Tom > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >>>> Fortran-dev mailing list ([log in to unmask]) > >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/pierre- > >>>> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca > >>>> > >>>> This email sent to [log in to unmask] > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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