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Annie I'd certainly check out that bpNichol site. And follow up to The Four Horsemen, of which he was a member.... Doug On 22-Jan-06, at 5:15 PM, Annie McGann wrote: > I would just like to say that on our creative studies program at Bath > Spa University, in script writing, poetry studies in English and > poetry studies as part of the creative writing program, we constantly > make reference to visual art both in writing in response to visual art > and in response to ideas in conceptual art and we look at the history > of ekphrasis. Richard Long certainly features in my teaching when it > comes to thinking about poetry and landscape. We also touch on the > experimental and the avant garde. In fact I was going to ask the > poetryetc. community what they considered to be the crucially > important areas of experimental poetry that I should introduce to my > students as part of a performance poetry module I am teaching on. I > have my own ideas but I know that the experts are right here :-) I am > starting with the Tin Bishop so where do you think I should go from > there? > > Best wishes > > Annie > >> From: Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> >> Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to >> poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Richard Long at SFMOMA >> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:47:17 +1100 >> >> On 23/1/06 9:19 AM, "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> > >> > In fariness, I guess we can also count multiples the number of >> writers who >> > have no literacy around the visual! It's probably the sad irony of >> so many >> > art programs in the way they exclude literature study from their >> > requirements, and, reciprocally, the way creative writing programs >> remain >> > blind to visual literature, let alone the history of music, avant >> garde >> > innovation, etc. >> >> Very interesting post, Stephen; what an interesting sounding event. >> Your >> comments make me think of all sorts of things.... It must be in the >> zeitgeist - this lack of curiosity about other disciplines is >> something >> George Hunka has been talking about on his blog in relation to theatre >> (check out his post at >> http://www.ghunka.com/index.cgi/Theater/Miscellaneous/narrative.html >> ) and I >> must say it's an issue that troubles me sometimes, in both theatre and >> poetry, the art forms I am most familiar with. Not that one can be >> conversant in all art forms, and there are certainly huge holes in my >> knowledge about everything, including poetry and theatre... >> >> Also, I'm researching Paul Carter at the moment, who pioneered >> "spatial >> history" with his book The Road to Botany Bay, and can't help >> wondering if >> Richard Long has any connection to that - Paul Carter is a visual >> artist as >> well as a writer (Ruark has collaborated with him) - >> >> All best >> >> Alison >> >> Alison Croggon >> >> Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com >> Editor, Masthead: http://masthead.net.au >> Home page: http://alisoncroggon.com > > Douglas Barbour 11655 - 72 Avenue NW Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9 (780) 436 3320 it's Sappho I said, on the radio Daphne Marlatt